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Idea for upcoming TV special
« on: August 23, 2010, 11:18:14 pm »
I was reading the mangas again and I was thinking, why not bring in Melon cop from 'World's Most Wanted'?
They've already included a lady counterpart in the second series but that doesn't rule anything out, they don't have to be the same character, they could cheat by saying they're relatives!
I can't imagine the series without Zenigata being Lupin's main rival but I hate to say it, Goro Naya's aging results in Zenigata having less and less screentime in recent specials and as long as it is that way, Melon, without replacing him, could fill some storytime. I'd love to hear 'Zeni-baby!' come to life!  ;)

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Re: Idea for upcoming TV special
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2010, 12:55:58 am »
If Naya Goro can't do Zeni anymore than that could be a good alternative.
But everyone will still miss old pop's.
They gotta find a voice actor to take over Naya Goro, just like Kurita Kanichi did for Yasuo Yamada.
but if Naya Goro can still do it then havin Melon give Zenigata some company would be good :)

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Re: Idea for upcoming TV special
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2010, 01:17:02 am »
but if Naya Goro can still do it then havin Melon give Zenigata some company would be good :)
That's exactly it! Have Zenigata be there, or else there's no 'Zeni-baby!' ;)
The main plot could be Melon pursuing Lupin, kinda like in the 'Detective Hanshichi's Ten-Year Promise' episode. Go back to the roots with an already existing character!
2012 maybe for Lupin's 45th anniversary, that'd be great!

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Re: Idea for upcoming TV special
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2010, 03:39:34 am »
I wouldn't mind a Special being based around a new cop being after Lupin. But by the end of the Special, him ultimately being defeated and proving that Zenigata is truly the only person capable of perusing Lupin.

I wouldn't want the new cop character (Melon or not) become a recurring character. I don't want to see the franchise go in THAT direction. You know, the "Cousin Oliver" direction. I mean seriously. You mine as well have Ted McGinley voice Melon Cop.

The franchise is over 40 years old. It's too late to stray away from the Main 5. You risk alienating your viewers. You simply cannot step so far away from what the franchise is about. Like I said, I wouldn't mind it for ONE SPECIAL. But not as a new thing.

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Re: Idea for upcoming TV special
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2010, 06:11:03 am »
Like I said, I wouldn't mind it for ONE SPECIAL. But not as a new thing.

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Yeah like I said in the title, as a one-time, TV SPECIAL. I think it'd be a great idea AND since they've putted Zenigata aside a bit lately because of Goro Naya's health, it could be a nice, subtle alternative, for now, I'm just putting 2 and 2 together here! They could do it like that even though the best scenario would be to have Zenigata and Melon working as a team throughout the entire story, managing to capture Lupin together, with Zenigata having the upper hand.
I was just being frank because like it or not, it is a fact that Zenigata doesn't have as much screentime as he used to but when Goro Naya won't be able to perform anymore, he's the one who'll be replaced, not Zenigata, don't worry, I love the five characters just as much as you do, they're what Lupin III is all about!
The main point is, Melon is such a recurring character in the manga, I find it odd that he hasn't been featured in the anime yet, as a man anyway!
With the 35th anniversary, they brought classic character Pycal back, with the 40th anniversary, they've highlighted Lupin's history and designs; with the 45th, they could include this manga character that's hasn't been adapted yet. Hell, at the very least, bring lady Melon back, I mean, she's not dead, right?

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Re: Idea for upcoming TV special
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2010, 06:34:20 am »
I'd love to see Melon Cop animated.  He's the "bad cop" to Zenigata's "good cop".  And a talented magician.  Be interesting to see how they handle that.

I agree in that I wouldn't want him to become a permanent cast member, but being a major character in a TV Special or movie would be great.
Or, if they decide to make a new TV series, then having him make occasional appearances in that would be cool.
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Re: Idea for upcoming TV special
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2010, 02:10:00 pm »
Like I said, I wouldn't mind it for ONE SPECIAL. But not as a new thing.
*puts on gloves*
Yeah like I said in the title, as a one-time, TV SPECIAL.
I wasn't saying that you suggested he be a main character. I was just stating my feelings on the overall thought, lol.

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Re: Idea for upcoming TV special
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2010, 02:16:08 pm »
I've searched my brains out, did the character or name exist at all before Lupin III, like Maurice Leblanc's Arsène Lupin?
A matter of copyrights, maybe?  ???
If not, what are they waiting for?!

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Re: Idea for upcoming TV special
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2010, 02:23:36 pm »
I've searched my brains out, did the character or name exist at all before Lupin III, like Maurice Leblanc's Arsène Lupin?
A matter of copyrights, maybe?  ???
If not, what are they waiting for?!
Well, they did already use a female version of Melon cop in the Anime. I guess they went for a different pun.

Male Melon Cop was a play on the fact that his head (His Melon) was so big

Female Melon Cop was a play on the fact that she had big breasts (Melons)

At least that's my take.

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Re: Idea for upcoming TV special
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2010, 09:14:58 pm »
I think it would be interesting to have a TV special
that bases its plot on one of original Arsene Lupin novels,
just like "Castle of Cagliostro" did.
In my opinion, The Crystal Stopper would be an interesting choice.
Hollow Needle and 813 would also be great choice, though the very dark
endings would have to go.
Personally, I have seriously thought of a story for a Lupin special,
but it will sadly stay as nothing more than fan fiction.

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Re: Idea for upcoming TV special
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2010, 10:39:40 pm »

I think it would be interesting to have a TV special
that bases its plot on one of original Arsene Lupin novels,
just like "Castle of Cagliostro" did.
In my opinion, The Crystal Stopper would be an interesting choice.
Hollow Needle and 813 would also be great choice, though the very dark
endings would have to go.
Personally, I have seriously thought of a story for a Lupin special,
but it will sadly stay as nothing more than fan fiction.
have you posted it? because i would like to read it :) if possible...

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Re: Idea for upcoming TV special
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2010, 02:33:46 am »
I think it would be interesting to have a TV special
that bases its plot on one of original Arsene Lupin novels,
just like "Castle of Cagliostro" did.
In my opinion, The Crystal Stopper would be an interesting choice.
Hollow Needle and 813 would also be great choice, though the very dark
endings would have to go.
How do they end?

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Re: Idea for upcoming TV special
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2010, 02:48:16 am »
I think it would be interesting to have a TV special
that bases its plot on one of original Arsene Lupin novels,
I'd want to see that too. I actually believe Sherlock Holmes has been public domain for a while, so I'd love for them do a Lupin vs Holmes themed special. On the topic incorporating manga characters (and this ties in a bit with Holmes as well) they could bring back Shaddock haha that plot was pretty different.

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Re: Idea for upcoming TV special
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2010, 11:05:09 am »
I think it would be interesting to have a TV special
that bases its plot on one of original Arsene Lupin novels,
just like "Castle of Cagliostro" did.
In my opinion, The Crystal Stopper would be an interesting choice.
Hollow Needle and 813 would also be great choice, though the very dark
endings would have to go.
How do they end?

*Hollow Needle: Lupin's lover dies by getting hit with a bullet meant for Lupin (fired by Sholmes BTW) at the end.
                      Lupin goes in hiding for four years in sorrow, away from his caper life. (though he spends the four years as a brilliant director
                      of old French agency equivalent of today's FBI, as revealed in 813).
*813: It's a tragic and complicated ending.
         After he finally seems to have gained victory over the mysterious "Other One" who has been putting him in constant trouble,
         Lupin finds out that the man in jail is innocent and the true "Other One" was a woman he has been trying to protect from the "Other", whom he was
         romantically interested and whom he accidentally kills in self-defense (Lupin abhors killing). Lupin later finds out that his important accomplice, who
         was a central figure in Lupin's ambitious project of taking back Alsace-Lorraine (economically important regions taken away by Prussia(old name
         for Germany) after France's defeat in France-Prussia War in real life) and who was enamored with the woman, committed suicide after
         finding her dead. An angry and livid Lupin rushes to Paris, to at least save the innocent man, but his recklessness kills his accomplice/driver.
         When he arrives at Paris, the man has already been executed... Lupin's series of "victory against destiny" had ended...
         Lupin goes to see his nanny for one last time, before he jumps from a cliff by the ocean to die. But he unwillingly survives and enlists
         in the French Legion in Morocco, where the story ends with Lupin seemingly getting ready to shoot himself, or at least die in battles.
         (Although later Lupin novels show him still alive and well, getting involved in other cases...)
         I was depressed for days after the reading the conclusion of 813, which had a very thrilling and entertaining plot until before the ending.
        
         It is still one of best Lupin stories. But this ending won't go for a Lupin III flick. A story shouldn't be this tragic for his grandson.
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Re: Idea for upcoming TV special
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2010, 07:16:50 pm »
Personally, I have seriously thought of a story for a Lupin special,
but it will sadly stay as nothing more than fan fiction.
have you posted it? because i would like to read it :) if possible...

No, I haven't physically written the story yet, just "thought of it", although I pretty much have the major parts of the story in my head.
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