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Re: "Lupin Has Three Jackets" Podcast: Official Discussion Thread
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2012, 01:42:02 am »
My Comments on Episode 50, Part 1

TRANSCRIBED FROM THE PODCAST (to the best of my ability)

Reed:
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"A lot of people seem to be really bothered by the sketchy filter for the shadows...there's a scene really towards the end where Fujiko is on her motorbike, that's an homage to the ending title sequence of the first series; and, uh, when they show her from kinda a 3/4 perspective, they uh...they kinda over-killed on the severity, like it's...like a vertical split...down her face and down her torso. It's just a very harsh transition, that doesn't look like anyone would ever shade it that way."

I'm right with ya there (I caught the episode on youtube). The shading I don't like a little over all, but it looks fine when compared to that particular shot. Definitely overkill.

The shading kind of harkens back to not only the manga, but to "The Secret of Mamo" (which of course is the only other Lupin title that imitates the manga) where that sketchy shading is used on Mamo as his clone is burning alive during the climax.

Gozar:
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"at the end of the second disk on the Master File collection, they have an interview with the crew behind the new
show, and they don't show a single clip"

I was curious, what exactly is the Master File Collection? Is it one of those recent Blu-ray boxsets directly from Japan? I assume this means it has subtitles so that you were able to understand it, right?

How much did that cost to purchase? Cause that's a pretty gutsy purchase, at least in my opinion.

I would if I could though, straight up.

Gozar:
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"When I started watching the opening sequence, I said to myself "What have I gotten myself into?"

The middle of Fujiko's clevage.

Gozar:
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"...just everything about that opening bugs me."

I thought the same thing. I was wondering "Wow, we're going the metaphorical girl kissing herself route like in the opening of Magic Knight Rayearth 2, and were going the Sexploitation route as well." Of course I didn't think the whole series was just going to be dopey porn like a lot of the manga IS, but the opening was an odd choice.

Gozar:
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"...I just feel like...if my wife weren't watching it with me, I'd feel like I was doing something wrong."

That is very true, same thing I sort of said when I first tried to watch "Mamo." But of course I'm single, I'm in a dorm room, and I'm an adult, so whether I get turned on or not really doesn't matter. To be honest, I wasn't really turned on, I found it more humorous actually. BUT...then it got sickening. lol

Gozar:
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"Did he think it was Lupin?...Did he think it was apples, did he need a snack..."

That got a good laugh outa me.

Ryan:
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"I think we can all agree, that is the lowest we will ever see Zenigata"
[referring to the 'ramen noodle lid holder
scene in Harimao]

You couldn't be more right. Zenigata was practically useless in that movie. His side story was filler. You don't need filler in a Lupin movie.

Reed:
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"Like in Jigen in Manga's dub of the Castle of Cagliostro"
Gozar:
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"Oh no"

Hey, don't rag on Jigen Gozar. I like Richard Epcar as much as the next guy, but Manga's Jigen was not that bad. Besides, it's supposed to be much later in Lupin and Jigen's careers anyway. Maybe the smoking got to him, you don't know.

Also...

Reed:
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"Or Zenigata in Manga's Cagliostro"

I will agree with you there. I just recently watched Cagliostro all in Japanese, for the first time. And I can honestly say I will never see the film the same way again. Because I could actually watch the movie rather than put half my brain power to listening to the dialogue, the true beauty was revealed. But also I realized just how odd the actors, including David Hayter are as the cast. I actually think Bob Bergen was slightly better, evne if he does sound like Matthew Broderick. If anything, Streamline's Zenigata was much more believable because it's a natural voice,
not a faked one coming out of a guy who clearly doesn't have a natural deep voice.

Reed:
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"In the later series, they treated Zenigata with a more, a more...carefree attitude I could say, I don't have a good
word for it."

Disrespect is a good one.

Gozar:
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"When I heard Zenigata in the recent specials, and everyone was saying how bad he sounded, I was like no no guys its
not as bad as it sounds.") Ryan:("You were in denial"

I guess I'm not as big of a fan of the original cast as I ought to be, but even if I was, and I'm a big fan of some things; but even if I was, I still knew he sounded poor. And it was crazy too like they even animated him in some cases where he barely did anything. Of what little I saw of "Elusiveness of the Fog" he looked so tired, even in animated form. Like what is the point if he's not going to have the same zeal and energy and vocal power as he always has. They have to retire this Goro guy and get somebody who can deliver. And I honestly, withouth a doubt, would say that about anybody. Even Mel Blanc back when he still did Bugs Bunny in the 60s and 70s, he sounded really raspy and poor.

Reed:
(refering to the JAL dub conspiracy sources)

Alright, now I know the story of that false information.

Gozar:
(refering to Frank Welker as a supposed voice for Jigen in Cliffhanger)

Now that would've been cool to hear, if it had happened. Also, I can't understand a damn thing in the cliffhanger clips, so thank you Reed for giving us the wonderful line "I'm gonna toss my cookies, Cliff!"

Golden Cheese if ever I heard it. LOL
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Re: "Lupin Has Three Jackets" Podcast: Official Discussion Thread
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2012, 12:22:18 am »
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I was curious, what exactly is the Master File Collection? Is it one of those recent Blu-ray boxsets directly from Japan? I assume this means it has subtitles so that you were able to understand it, right?

How much did that cost to purchase? Cause that's a pretty gutsy purchase, at least in my opinion.

I would if I could though, straight up.
The Master File is a recent DVD/Blu-Ray release that contains a new 10 Minute OVA based on the first Chapter of Shin Lupin III, the Lupin the 8'th Pilot, interviews, a new 3DCG Animation, a Documentary on the history of Lupin, commercials, and a few other things.

There are no Subs on it and cost be $90 counting shipping.

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« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2012, 11:47:27 am »
The Master File is a recent DVD/Blu-Ray release that contains a new 10 Minute OVA based on the first Chapter of Shin Lupin III, the Lupin the 8'th Pilot, interviews, a new 3DCG Animation, a Documentary on the history of Lupin, commercials, and a few other things.

There are no Subs on it and cost be $90 counting shipping.

I know I bought both the storyboards and the Mook of "Castle of Cagliostro" with nothing translated, but why exactly would you buy this without subtitles? Just seeing footage of them working on the series in a documentary isn't as fascinating as actually knowing what they're talking about.

On the other hand, I will likely buy the "Cagliostro" blu-ray because I think it did either have subtitles or the Streamline english dub on it. If it has neither, I know the movie well enough to just enjoy it in (720p) hi-def.

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Re: "Lupin Has Three Jackets" Podcast: Official Discussion Thread
« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2012, 12:34:03 am »
Rather than answer you, I'll ask you to tune in to Episode 51 of the Podcast which will be posted tomorrow. The Master File is reviewed on it and my reasons for purchasing are discussed. XD

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« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2012, 04:40:42 am »
Rather than answer you, I'll ask you to tune in to Episode 51 of the Podcast which will be posted tomorrow. The Master File is reviewed on it and my reasons for purchasing are discussed. XD

Good enough for me.

By the way, I will soon be purchasing my own copy of the UK dub of "The Secret of Mamo" once again starring my guilty pleasure voice actor, William Dufris, as Lupin; which marks the 4th English dub of the film, and likely the most alternate dubs to any Lupin film (including all foreign). I won't be buying the UK Cagliostro however, because I do believe it is the Streamline dub.

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« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2012, 11:28:38 am »
on the topic of UK releases
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lupin-III-Fuma-Conspiracy-VHS-Anime-1987-/120895738496?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Videos&hash=item1c25f29280


I personally wouldn't buy this though because it's just English subbed. Unless there's something like footage that was missing from our version included in this one, or yet another alternate dub most importantly, then I wouldn't spare the change.

However, I did not notice this the last few times I looked on ebay. I'm still hoping to find a legitimate copy of "Bye Bye Lady Liberty" since it was available here for a short time.

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Re: "Lupin Has Three Jackets" Podcast: Official Discussion Thread
« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2012, 06:55:28 pm »
http://sixdollarcookie.podbean.com/2012/04/16/lupin-has-three-jackets-episode-51-master-file-review/ Episode 51 with discussion on the master file dvd. Expect episode 52, a review of episode 2 Lupin III: Fujiko Mine sometime this week

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Re: "Lupin Has Three Jackets" Podcast: Official Discussion Thread
« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2012, 09:40:47 pm »
SUGGESTION to Gozar:

I had, at one point, intended on having my grandparents purchase for me the Japanese language learning system from "Rosetta Stone" for my high school graduation present; which undoubtedly is the best language learning software out there, and the most natural as I have been told. I however, opted out of that choice for my present and instead asked for my lovely PS3.

But I would highly suggest that if you have a good amount of free time, Gozar, and you have the money saved up, buy the Japanese language Rosetta Stone software, before you buy something else expensive and Lupin related that is unsubbed.

Granted I don't think the software helps with learning how to read Japanese, but learning how to hear and speak it is a pretty big deal. It's by far my favorite language.

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« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2012, 09:47:07 pm »
Also, a big question, Gozar:

Why, when you clearly stated that you bought the Master File, because you felt that it would not be around forever, would you buy the DVD version in an era where Blu-ray is still on the rise and it was available on Blu-ray?
Was an extra $20 dollars just too too much? lol Or have you just not bought a Blu-ray player yet? Because if I were in your shoes, it would have been no question, Blu-ray all the way! I wanna see Lupin the 8th in HI-DEFINITION. lol  ;D

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Re: "Lupin Has Three Jackets" Podcast: Official Discussion Thread
« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2012, 09:50:21 pm »
great show.

i kinda feel like the link between this show and the original manga is being slightly misread.

the reason i like this show a lot is because it doesn't just recreate the manga, nor is it a port of it. although the style of art is similar, i think they add in some of the pilot like you guys mentioned, but i think what the crew of the show has done is used a lot of things that actually influenced Monkey Punch.  I see more of that in this than what we've seen done in the other iterations of Lupin, which is the right way to do it, imo.

i see more 60's/70's American and Italian B-film influences than i do from the manga. Its like they went back to the essence.
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« Reply #26 on: April 16, 2012, 11:00:19 pm »
Ryan:
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No, no, you mean Richard Richardson.

LOL, Ha ha. That was originally my flub.  :P ;D

You're welcome. Lol

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« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2012, 11:24:48 pm »
Also, a big question, Gozar:

Why, when you clearly stated that you bought the Master File, because you felt that it would not be around forever, would you buy the DVD version in an era where Blu-ray is still on the rise and it was available on Blu-ray?
Was an extra $20 dollars just too too much? lol Or have you just not bought a Blu-ray player yet? Because if I were in your shoes, it would have been no question, Blu-ray all the way! I wanna see Lupin the 8th in HI-DEFINITION. lol  ;D
I don't own a Blu-Ray Player yet. Nor an HDTV. =(

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Re: "Lupin Has Three Jackets" Podcast: Official Discussion Thread
« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2012, 10:16:48 pm »
In case you (Gozar) and Ryan don't see my comment on the podcast site:

I know I'm not as involved as others here on the forums (due to my college work mostly :( ), but I would Really love ;D to talk about this new series with you guys on the podcast.

I know Ryan has plans of who to bring on to talk about Episode 3, but would it be possible for me to come on to talk about Episode 4? Because that seems to be the one where the introductions will all come together and a real Lupin-ish story will begin.  8) It is also the one that I think I will like the most out of the first few episodes that have been confirmed, so I will likely have a lot to say about it, besides some other related things you would all discuss.

I would like to hit on voice acting too, since that's one of my biggest hobbies and interests.

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