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lupinIIImusic

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Yuji Ohno's inspiration
« on: October 10, 2012, 11:16:29 am »
Whenever I'm on Youtube watching a video, I like to read the comments sometimes. (Just some of it... Most of it is nonsense.) I noticed some people pointed out that two songs by Yuji Ohno sound a LOT like songs from other musicians.

Compare
Magnum Dance ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2deWGsWJSm4 )
with
Night Crawler, by Bob James ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDuHAN6RAJQ )

And
Tornado ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYJF2Eu7ZOU )
with
Children of Sanchez, by Chuck Mangione ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkalXPRkffI , around the 0:32 mark )


The release dates of the songs seem to match, making it highly likely that Ohno based the songs on those by James and Mangione. The reason I'm posting this, is that I'm wondering what you guys think of this.
Personally, I do believe Ohno based the two songs mentioned on James and Mangione's music, but I don't mind; artist base their work on other people's work all the time. I am a bit surprised and disappointed that it isn't really mentioned or credited anywhere.

Thoughts? Or know of any other songs that seem similar to Ohno's?

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Re: Yuji Ohno's inspiration
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2012, 12:40:58 pm »
HOLLY CRAP! :o :o :o

"Night Crawler" does sound EXACTLY like "Magnum Dance." Same opening sprinkle noises, same tempo; and I tried singing "Magnum Dance" along with this song. Every stanza, while written differently, lined up perfectly. That is just crazy man. Thank you, thank you, thank you for finding out about this. I love crazy trivia like this. ;D ;D ;D

"Children of Sanchez" doesn't line up as perfectly, but I can tell how similar it is with the stanzas, the tune, and the specific mixture of instruments.


Incidently, did you see my post for "Zantetsuken" compared to a Yanni song?

Here is "Zantetsuken" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDRBLEJBr1w (listen to the first 45 seconds)

Now here's Yanni's song "Never Too Late" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSrKrbcngNI (listen to the first 45 seconds as well)

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Re: Yuji Ohno's inspiration
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2012, 05:45:18 pm »
Hmmm, I find that Yanni comparison very hard to hear, though I can hear some resemblance indeed.

Yeah, Night Crawler is definitely the better example of the two. Glad I came across it, as it introduced me to Bob James, who I am now a fan of.  ;D That man made some great stuff

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Re: Yuji Ohno's inspiration
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2012, 07:58:36 am »
Well, it was the 70s, so a lot of that music sounded alike.

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Re: Yuji Ohno's inspiration
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2012, 09:23:56 am »
Well, it was the 70s, so a lot of that music sounded alike.

Are you saying you don't hear the spot-on duplication of that Bob James "Night Crawler" song? Cause this isn't just a case of similarity, this is a case of complete and intentional imitation of an entire song's formula.

Cause see if you can play both songs at the same time, they'll line up pretty darn perfectly if you scoot them around a bit. Although "Magnum Dance" is slightly faster, because they will not synchronize in a youtube doubler. You just have to listen for it unless you can find a way to slow Magnum Dance down.
« Last Edit: October 11, 2012, 09:25:50 am by FilmmakerJ »

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Re: Yuji Ohno's inspiration
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2012, 05:38:35 pm »
I'm not saying Ohno wasn't inspired by those songs, but those were common beats and rhythms to a lot of soundtracks back then.

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Re: Yuji Ohno's inspiration
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2012, 06:26:11 pm »
I'm not saying Ohno wasn't inspired by those songs, but those were common beats and rhythms to a lot of soundtracks back then.

And I'm not saying your wrong, but that is not the case here. Yuji Ohno practically copied this song beat for beat, tune for tune, with every stanza in the same place for at least the first half of the song. They are "dead-ringers" for each other.

But I'm not saying Yuji Ohno is a bad guy for doing this. I'm just saying it is clearly a complete imitation or copy of "Night Crawler." You try finding another song that has the exact same tune as "Magnum Dance" like "Night Crawler" does and maybe I'll agree with you that it's nothing special.

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Re: Yuji Ohno's inspiration
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2012, 04:15:38 am »
I'm not a music connoiseur, so no luck there.  :'(

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Re: Yuji Ohno's inspiration
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2012, 06:27:24 pm »
Hey ~lupinIIImusic !

After seeing your post here, about the Bob James inspiration for "Magnum Dance," I lucked out and found that exact record by James called "Heads," at the Savannah Record Fair.

So now I own the record and can make my own official comparisons; because I also own the record that "Magnum Dance" comes from too.  ;D

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Re: Yuji Ohno's inspiration
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2012, 10:39:06 am »
Hehe, nice!  ;D What are the odds

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Re: Yuji Ohno's inspiration
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2012, 10:13:25 pm »
Can't really pass up JFK Memories and Peter Gunn
JFK Memories (Yuji Ohno) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUcr1V85GtA&playnext=1&list=PLE2CDF46ACCF1D0F4&feature=results_video

Peter Gunn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CHjYHwNzx0 Edit: Wrong Link, Fixed now
« Last Edit: November 03, 2012, 11:51:22 pm by Mr. Foo »

lupinIIImusic

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Re: Yuji Ohno's inspiration
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2012, 07:37:33 am »
Oh wow, never heard JFK memories before. I recognized it even before I looked at the second link.  :-\

Too bad that some Lupin songs are obvious heavily based on others. I've been watching the Red Jacket series lately and it actually uses the Mission:Impossible theme at some points. Like, not even something based on the M:I theme, it's exactly the same... Shame, 'cause it's not like Ohno isn't talented enough to write stuff himself. Inspiration is one thing, but geez...

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Re: Yuji Ohno's inspiration
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2013, 07:52:28 pm »
Sorry for the bump. But I just wanted to bring up the Theme From Rocky (Gonna Fly Now) I don't know if this similiarity is already common knowledge to everyone, but it wasn't to me so here it is anyway:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioE_O7Lm0I4

Sound familiar?

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Re: Yuji Ohno's inspiration
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2013, 02:17:15 am »
It's sorta the opposite of this thread, but whatever, ;P it seems this Korean pop band was inspired by the beginning of a song we all know!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCPFK61Yu3M

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Re: Yuji Ohno's inspiration
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2014, 01:26:38 am »
Sorry for the bump. But I just wanted to bring up the Theme From Rocky (Gonna Fly Now) I don't know if this similiarity is already common knowledge to everyone, but it wasn't to me so here it is anyway:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioE_O7Lm0I4

Sound familiar?

What's it supposed to sound familiar to? I've heard the Rocky theme a million times since I was a kid, and can't relate it to any of the original Lupin III Yuji Ohno tunes that I've heard. Got a comparison?