Author Topic: Goemon gets the dark and gritty treatment in Jigen's Gravestone sequel.  (Read 5743 times)

Akai Shuichi

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Re: Goemon gets the dark and gritty treatment in Jigen's Gravestone sequel.
« Reply #75 on: February 21, 2017, 11:55:51 AM »
Actually you can buy the Blu-Ray in the movie theater as long as you purchase a ticket for the movie. But after it leaves theaters you won't be able to get it until the official release in May.

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Re: Goemon gets the dark and gritty treatment in Jigen's Gravestone sequel.
« Reply #76 on: February 22, 2017, 03:14:52 AM »
There are probably exclusive perks in buying the theater version of the film, too, huh?

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Re: Goemon gets the dark and gritty treatment in Jigen's Gravestone sequel.
« Reply #77 on: February 22, 2017, 09:29:16 AM »
Not 100% sure. I do know that the theater version includes the sleeve that the Limited Edition has at least.

Have there been any reports yet of how this is doing and selling tickets? Has it been well received in Japan?

It appears to have been popular enough that they expanded it according to:
http://goemon170204.tumblr.com/post/156882164834/lupin-the-%E2%85%A2rd-%E8%A1%80%E7%85%99%E3%81%AE%E7%9F%B3%E5%B7%9D%E4%BA%94%E3%82%A7%E9%96%80%E5%A5%BD%E8%A9%95%E3%81%AB%E3%81%A4%E3%81%8D%E4%B8%8A%E6%98%A0%E5%8A%87%E5%A0%B4%E3%81%AE%E6%8B%A1%E5%A4%A7%E3%81%8C%E6%B1%BA%E5%AE%9A
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I've seen the subtitle-less version of the movie that's been recently made available online. It was quite easy to follow, but I still want to see a translation of the dialogue to fully appreciate it. Hopefully, Discotek will make an announcement sometime soon because I will buy this Blu Ray in a heartbeat. The movie is pretty awesome IMO. The artwork and animation are incredible, as expected. Once again, James Shimoji's musical score is top-notch. I really dug his theme for The Bermuda Spectre (It's track 8 if you want to hear a sample: https://good-beat.com/album/lupin-goemon/).

It's a fairly simple plot without subtitles, but there's a few scenes with quite a bit of dialogue and I'm looking forward to fully understand what's going on. I won't go into much detail, but the final battle scenes are spectacular and incredibly brutal. I honestly can't stress the brutal aspect of it enough. This is the most violent thing I've seen in the Lupin series. It might not be everybody's cup of tea, but I enjoyed it quite a bit.

I don't think these are heavy spoilers, but I'll mark them as so anyway...

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All in all, I was very pleased with what I saw and I can't wait to see the whole version of the film in the future. I'm looking forward to seeing what everyone else thinks about it.

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Like you, Red Jacket, I watched the raw version of the movie and like you I really liked it overall though I regretted it the lack of after-credit scene or Mamo cameo. But apart from that, I really liked it and it is more deserving of the title of Goemon-centered story than Jigen's gravestone was. Goemon isn't the only focus but is certainly the most promiment. Hawk alias the Bermuda Specter us terrifying and fun at the same time ! The gang is very interesting in their interactions. I just regretted that Fujiko isn't in the movie for very long and her role isn't very instrumental. Zenigata was great while being very subdued. He was in serious efficient mode but he was good in that role for that universe. The story is fairly simple but is also a bit more unique than I would have thought. Goemon had his share of adversaries and rivals but this is the first time we get to see him in a really tough time. The poor guy is really distraught by that living montain that is The Bermuda Specter.

Also, I love how the Bermuda Specter is the embodiement of everything american in terms of stature and attitude while Goemon is the epitome of old Japan. But Goemon also fights the other remnant of Japan's feodal days; the Yakuza. So in a way it's Goemon facing his heritage and place in his culture.

I really hope Koike, the producers and Studio Telecom will continue making those spin-off movies in the near future. And I hope the next one will be about Zenigata. If we count the Mine Fujiko series, he is the only one not to have a spin-off movie yet. ^^
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I agree with your point about Fujiko, Red Dear. Her role in Jigen's Gravestone and more so in this movie has been a little lackluster. As far as I'm concerned, it's the only weakness of both films that stands out to me. She had some good moments in the Woman Called Fujiko Mine series, but she hasn't really shined in the spin-off movies like the other characters have. I wouldn't be opposed to her getting one of these 50-minute movies from Koike, but I doubt that'll happen.

I also agree that the Bermuda Spectre was terrifying, fun and very badass. I can't wait to see what kind of villain Zenigata's going to face in his movie.
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going to watch it when somone makes throws a script out in the open

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I agree with your point about Fujiko, Red Dear. Her role in Jigen's Gravestone and more so in this movie has been a little lackluster. As far as I'm concerned, it's the only weakness of both films that stands out to me. She had some good moments in the Woman Called Fujiko Mine series, but she hasn't really shined in the spin-off movies like the other characters have. I wouldn't be opposed to her getting one of these 50-minute movies from Koike, but I doubt that'll happen.

I also agree that the Bermuda Spectre was terrifying, fun and very badass. I can't wait to see what kind of villain Zenigata's going to face in his movie.

Fujiko had a more important place in the plot of Jigen's Gravestone. And even if the "Rape Robot" scene has been the subject of heavy controversy on the internet, Fujiko's role didn't stop at that and she still managed to be proactive and got her due in the end. In "Chikemuri", she seems to simply leave. Her bong and massage scene was funny however and gave us a glimpse of her relationship with Lupin and Jigen during calmer moments. ^^

I think another movie dedicated to her wouldn't be superfluous but I also doubt they will do that. My money is on a Zenigata spin-off movie. It makes sense with the recent live action drama series and the fact Zenigata's subplot has been building up since Jigen's Gravestone.
« Last Edit: March 22, 2017, 06:53:37 PM by Red Dear »
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I couldn't resist and watched the RAW too. That was BAD ASS.
I absolutely loved Goemon's "Blood Ballet" that scene was beautiful and the music was perfect. Certainly was brutal, but not too brutal, at least for me. Can't wait to watch it again subbed, and praying that Discotek gets it, and dubs it on BD. Day 1 purchase for sure if so.