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Title: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: GATSU on October 14, 2014, 03:49:19 PM
It's a little early (https://twitter.com/OlivierFallaix/status/522050602176888832) for April Fool's, but I'll still take this with a grain of salt. Thanks to @aicnanime and @olivierfallaix for the pic, which hopefully isn't Photoshopped.

ADMIN EDIT: New Lupin the Third TV series with Kazuhide Tomonaga as Chief Director and other talented staff has been announced to be debuting on Italian TV in 2015, with Japanese release presumably to follow. Probably will be much like the international Space Dandy treatment. The show begins in an Italian and San Marino setting, too! ANN report: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-10-14/1st-tv-anime-show-starring-lupin-iii-in-3-decades-to-launch-in-italy/.79924
Title: Re: Italian Lupin 'anime' in the works?
Post by: Red Dear on October 14, 2014, 04:51:38 PM
Not a joke, here is the official website: http://lupin-new-season.jp/#visual

Also, Italy will have prime time but I think it will also be broadcasted in Japan.

The production staff is also known. The studio is good ol' Telecom.

Permission to get shockingly excited, sir !  ;D
Title: Re: Italian Lupin 'anime' in the works?
Post by: GATSU on October 14, 2014, 05:47:27 PM
Yeah, ANN has the details (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-10-14/1st-tv-anime-show-starring-lupin-iii-in-3-decades-to-launch-in-italy/.79924), so I'll change the header accordingly. I hope TMS uploads it to Hulu and/or Daisuke next.
Title: Re: Confirmed. Italian Lupin 'anime' in the works. TMS involved. Blue Jacket.
Post by: SolHerald on October 14, 2014, 07:04:45 PM
This sure is a good time for Lupin fans.
After the Mine Fujiko series, I'm really looking forward to this series.
Now the only news I am hoping for is this year's TV special.
Title: Re: Confirmed. Italian Lupin 'anime' in the works. TMS involved. Blue Jacket.
Post by: GATSU on October 14, 2014, 10:40:04 PM
I'm hoping we're getting this mofo on Daisuki or Hulu. But if ends up going that route, I guess I'll spring for Netflix.  :'(
Title: Re: Confirmed. Italian Lupin 'anime' in the works. TMS involved. Blue Jacket.
Post by: Shin Lupin Sansei on October 15, 2014, 12:11:34 AM
This sure is a good time for Lupin fans.
After the Mine Fujiko series, I'm really looking forward to this series.
Now the only news I am hoping for is this year's TV special.

I could totally do without the yearly cookie-cutter Lupin vs the generic evil arms dealer for the 12th time tv special in place of stuff like this, Fujiko, and Tomb of Jigen...this is crazy exciting news.
Title: Re: Confirmed. Italian Lupin 'anime' in the works. TMS involved. Blue Jacket.
Post by: SolHerald on October 15, 2014, 01:39:40 AM
Quote
I could totally do without the yearly cookie-cutter Lupin vs the generic evil arms dealer for the 12th time tv special in place of stuff like this, Fujiko, and Tomb of Jigen...this is crazy exciting news.
I agree, they aren't that good, but part of me tries to remain optimistic and hope that they start to put more effort into the TV specials.  :-\
And after getting Tomb of Jigen, a live-action film, and this new series, I guess I can't complain.
Title: Re: Confirmed. Italian Lupin 'anime' in the works. TMS involved. Blue Jacket.
Post by: ehh123 on October 15, 2014, 04:16:02 AM
Ah, yes. Lupin III is to Italy what David Hasselhoff is to Germany. I think it will be weird for Lupin to be settled mainly in a country you don't often associate with him. Still, the Italian backdrop does offer a wide range of possibilities.
Title: Re: Confirmed. Italian Lupin 'anime' in the works. TMS involved. Blue Jacket.
Post by: Red Dear on October 15, 2014, 07:15:05 AM
Well, Italy is the first "adopted land" of Lupin III since the very first TV series (the italian were the first
ever in Europe to broadcast it). And Monkey Punch himself collaborated with Italian magazines and artists
during the late 70's early 80's.

So to me, it's really not that weird to see Lupin settling in Italy, at least as long as this new series lasts.
Lupin was Japan-grounded first in the manga as well as in the green jacket series.

His traveling habits began around the second TV series but one place he seemed to return a lot was France for a while.

I really cannot wait to learn more about this new TV series ! I'm so hyped at the moment !  ;D
Title: Re: Confirmed. Italian Lupin 'anime' in the works. TMS involved. Blue Jacket.
Post by: Aelia on October 15, 2014, 03:12:53 PM
Heck yeah I am excited.
Title: Re: Confirmed. Italian Lupin 'anime' in the works. TMS involved. Blue Jacket.
Post by: Gozar on October 15, 2014, 06:39:39 PM
I am going to remain cautiously optimistic for this series. I'm really happy that Lupin is getting a new TV series, but I got all hyped for "Fujiko Mine" and wound up hating it. So I'd prefer to not get too excited and wind up disappointed. Considering the character designs are very reminiscent of prior classic TV Series, I would find it surprising if it didn't share at least a little of the "Red Jacket" tone. I'd really like to see a series that took Lupin back to a "Red Jacket" feel. These new TV Specials try too hard to be modern. I'd love a good old fun heist type of series.
Title: Re: Confirmed. Italian Lupin 'anime' in the works. TMS involved. Blue Jacket.
Post by: Aelia on October 15, 2014, 10:13:41 PM
I don't think there is any reason to be cautious about this one if you didn't like the Fujiko anime. The staff is entirely different.
Title: Re: Confirmed. Italian Lupin 'anime' in the works. TMS involved. Blue Jacket.
Post by: fdave on October 16, 2014, 03:50:19 PM
In Italy (after Japan) lives the most Lupin-fans in the world, so they deserve this. :)
Title: Re: Confirmed. Italian Lupin 'anime' in the works. TMS involved. Blue Jacket.
Post by: Gozar on October 16, 2014, 03:59:17 PM
I don't think there is any reason to be cautious about this one if you didn't like the Fujiko anime. The staff is entirely different.
I know the staff is different. It's more a combination of "Fujiko Mine" along with a number of TV Specials in a row that had squandered potential.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: mikezilla2 on October 17, 2014, 01:43:23 AM
heck yea !  no dates et i take it - just erly next year is fine :)
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: MGFanJay on October 18, 2014, 03:18:34 AM
Lupin works really well in TV episode format - cautiously optimistic about this.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: penguintruth on October 18, 2014, 09:38:16 PM
I'm hoping Koike is involved somehow and it's tonally similar to the Fujiko TV series, if just a little different.

I just hope it won't be the soft, toothless, neutered Lupin of the TV specials, who can barely even flirt with a woman now, let alone shoot somebody in the face when necessary.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Red Dear on October 19, 2014, 10:30:59 AM
Koike doesn't seem to be involved with this new TV series but the production includes
veteran master animators and the writer of Daisuke Jigen's Gravestone as well as Telecom
studio. So all in all, I think we're in good hands.  ;)
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Fujiko Lover on October 22, 2014, 10:03:02 PM
Ooh, this is exciting news! I look forward to seeing what comes of it.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Psycho_Kenshin on October 26, 2014, 07:24:31 PM
Incredibly groovy news! Hot damn. Always very pleasantly suprised when I log on here, Lupin and his gang are more lively than ever.  ;D
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Red Dear on October 28, 2014, 06:10:37 PM
Some words from the crew: http://otakuusamagazine.com/Anime/News1/New-Lupin-III-Series-To-Debut-In-2015-5991.aspx

Sounds engaging.  ;)
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: SSJ3_Goku345 on November 03, 2014, 05:00:16 PM
Yes, it does! These comments make me hopeful for this series.

But it's Telecom Animation what we are talking about! The past projects they've worked in remain the best, in terms of animation. Just think about Cagliostro, Nostradamus or Fuma, among other specials and some TV episode.

I have, however, a great doubt. Where's Goemon?

It might be a little bit too soon to speculate anything, but I read somewhere that the recent Tomb of Daisuke Jigen hinted (somewhat) a future project. Haven't watched it yet, could this series be the project hinted? Like a story that takes place after the movie? Lupin's outfit, Fujiko's hair color and the absence of Goemon in the official pictures make me wonder about this.

And what if Goemon, along this series, ocassionally crossed roads with Lupin & Co. without meeting them actually? Like in the Fujiko series, but with a "real" load on the plot? I don't know if I'm explaining myself properly.

It would be nice or, at least, different  :)
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: GATSU on November 04, 2014, 11:04:29 PM
SSJ3: They do the spin-off thing more often in manga, at least.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: lupinthewolf on November 17, 2014, 01:56:00 PM
Even though the series will be airing in Italian first, I'm assuming Japanese will still be considered the original language track. International releases of Space Dandy, for example, list Japanese as the original and not English.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Reed on November 17, 2014, 03:07:53 PM
It's probably safe to assume that shows like Space Dandy that are animated in Japan were originally written in Japanese, then translated into English at some point. Whether the animation is dubbed into English or Japanese first seems to be irrelevant by that metric. Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust is another odd example, where the English audio track came first by a whole year. But, again, since the film likely had a Japanese script before an English one, some could argue that its original language was Japanese.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Red Dear on February 23, 2015, 07:46:08 PM
You can find new screenshots from the production, with even a small bit of animation
here, on Lupin Central: http://lupincentral.tumblr.com/post/111900713013/and-heres-a-very-quick-look-at-the-show-in

http://lupincentral.tumblr.com/post/111900502618/these-images-are-taken-from-an-episode-of-nhk

http://lupincentral.tumblr.com/post/111860255178/paisleypawpads-lupincentral-here-we-go-some

This is not much but it's enough for me to be, once again, hyped as all hell ! :D
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Akai Shuichi on February 23, 2015, 08:46:37 PM
Yea! Me too! Now, if crunchyroll picks this up I will lost my freaking mind.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: SolHerald on February 23, 2015, 10:56:43 PM
If Crunchyroll streams it, and Discotek releases it, I'll probably have a hysterical breakdown.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: GATSU on February 23, 2015, 11:08:35 PM
Red: Thanks. I like how they're still pretending the pink jacket Lupin doesn't exist.  ;D
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Red Dear on February 24, 2015, 12:19:25 AM
Red: Thanks. I like how they're still pretending the pink jacket Lupin doesn't exist.  ;D

XD. I didn't see it that way, I admit. But this could just be a way to compare models. ^^

Anyway, we know the whole regular cast is there (plus an unknown blond woman but it could as well be a Fujiko variant), so if Goemon actually interacts with Lupin and Jigen, this could mean this series is at least taking place after Green Jacket.

Or this series follows its own continuity. Or Goemon will not be interacting with Lupin but I find it hard to believe.

Also, they say the blue jacket is a reference to the national football uniform of Italy. In my opinion, this is more of an after-thought. I think this new blue jacket dates back from the Mine Fujiko to Iu Onna promotional visuals and has been retained to make this production unique, to make Lupin enter a new era. ^^
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: blackjacket on February 28, 2015, 01:29:48 PM
I love what I saw of the small preview pics and short animation.
I am getting hyped too!
And as for continuities, if it is related to other shows, it would be likely set sometime after Red Jacket series,
since I believe the start of Red Jacket series has all characters saying that they were meeting for the first
time since the end of Green Jacket series.
Anyways, I hope they release a proper trailer soon.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Akai Shuichi on February 28, 2015, 05:12:39 PM
Yeah, red jacket is supposedly set 5 years after the first episode of series 1.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: SSJ3_Goku345 on February 28, 2015, 05:13:22 PM
Red: Thanks. I like how they're still pretending the pink jacket Lupin doesn't exist.  ;D

XD. I didn't see it that way, I admit. But this could just be a way to compare models. ^^

Anyway, we know the whole regular cast is there (plus an unknown blond woman but it could as well be a Fujiko variant), so if Goemon actually interacts with Lupin and Jigen, this could mean this series is at least taking place after Green Jacket.

Or this series follows its own continuity. Or Goemon will not be interacting with Lupin but I find it hard to believe.

Also, they say the blue jacket is a reference to the national football uniform of Italy. In my opinion, this is more of an after-thought. I think this new blue jacket dates back from the Mine Fujiko to Iu Onna promotional visuals and has been retained to make this production unique, to make Lupin enter a new era. ^^

I would like he started off as a foe to Lupin and Jigen. But it had to be a different dimension or something  ???
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: bolt7 on March 01, 2015, 11:51:29 AM
Full episode of NHK Gendai is here, folks. Check around the 10 minute mark for the segment featuring new Lupin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uqPsiivvxM&feature=youtu.be&t=10m1s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uqPsiivvxM&feature=youtu.be&t=10m1s)
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: DragonmasterDan on March 01, 2015, 08:39:42 PM
Full episode of NHK Gendai is here, folks. Check around the 10 minute mark for the segment featuring new Lupin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uqPsiivvxM&feature=youtu.be&t=10m1s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uqPsiivvxM&feature=youtu.be&t=10m1s)

Awesome. Thanks for the link. It was nice to see a little more of how Blue Jacket looks. I also liked seeing the fact that a lot of people were still working with paper rather than digital pen for the hand drawn look and then watching the finished product on PVMs.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: JayAukie on March 01, 2015, 09:29:54 PM
Full episode of NHK Gendai is here, folks. Check around the 10 minute mark for the segment featuring new Lupin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uqPsiivvxM&feature=youtu.be&t=10m1s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uqPsiivvxM&feature=youtu.be&t=10m1s)

Thank you for the link as well. I like the Lupin statue that appears at the 12:30 mark under the lupin helmet. Hopefully I can find it somewhere I can be able to purchase it.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: ehh123 on March 03, 2015, 05:06:40 PM
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-02-03/japan-animation-tv-ranking-january-19-25/.83985

Notice the high ratings a previously aired Lupin III TV movie got this January. You think the Blue Jacket anime will make it into the top 10 if it got a good time slot?
Title: Re: Confirmed. Italian Lupin 'anime' in the works. TMS involved. Blue Jacket.
Post by: Fujikogirl23 on March 25, 2015, 08:53:39 AM
I don't think there is any reason to be cautious about this one if you didn't like the Fujiko anime. The staff is entirely different.
I know the staff is different. It's more a combination of "Fujiko Mine" along with a number of TV Specials in a row that had squandered potential.

I have to admit, I was skeptical as well about this when it was first announced because I too ended up hating "Fujiko Mine" (ironically) after the series' finale. So I'm going to be cautious as well. Optimistic, but cautious.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Red Dear on March 25, 2015, 07:24:39 PM
Again, the reception of "Mine Fujiko To Iu Onna" is subject to
strong subjectivity and we should not evaluate the new TV series
based on it.
First because it is not productive and second because of what we can conclude
from the differents interviews, the intentions are quite different.

This new series will try to capture every aspect of makes Lupin III, from serious to comical,
form sexy to tongue-in-cheek.

So if I could humbly give one advice, it's to come at this series with an open mind. ^^
Title: Re: Confirmed. Italian Lupin 'anime' in the works. TMS involved. Blue Jacket.
Post by: Aelia on April 01, 2015, 05:13:04 PM
I have to admit, I was skeptical as well about this when it was first announced because I too ended up hating "Fujiko Mine" (ironically) after the series' finale. So I'm going to be cautious as well. Optimistic, but cautious.

I think everything that is wrong with "Fujiko Mine" is the fault of Mari Okada's composition. Since she's not involved at all I don't see any reason to project the failings of that series onto this one.

So if I could humbly give one advice, it's to come at this series with an open mind. ^^

Agreed.

Also, is it April already? Time sure flew by fast.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: GATSU on April 01, 2015, 07:05:24 PM
Okada's talented. It was just her first 'mainstream' project where she wasn't solely an assistant animator or basically adapting someone else's material.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Aelia on April 01, 2015, 07:22:01 PM
Okada's talented. It was just her first 'mainstream' project where she wasn't solely an assistant animator or basically adapting someone else's material.

I think you're conflating her with the series director, Sayo Yamamoto.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Red Dear on April 02, 2015, 02:41:28 AM
Leaving the Yamato debate aside, there is no actual premiere date for
the new TV series yet. But spring doesn't stop at april so let's be patient. ^^
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: GATSU on April 03, 2015, 12:13:04 AM
Aelia: Yeah, probably. Ok, then I'll admit Okada's a bit hackey.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Fujikogirl23 on April 07, 2015, 01:15:35 AM
I guess you guys are right. lol. It definitely doesn't seem to have the same direction as the last series (along with the same director. I didn't like her take on the "Black Rock Shooter TV series" either. I thought the OVA was much better), so that's definitely true. I didn't mean to start a debate, however. So I apologize for that. ^ ^u

Leaving the Yamato debate aside, there is no actual premiere date for
the new TV series yet. But spring doesn't stop at april so let's be patient. ^^

I got kind of worried about that, too, since all the other spring line-up schedules said it was supposed to be in April when a couple of friends I know pulled them up. But just like before, we'll probably get a notification as soon as they are ready to air the series. :)
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: mikezilla2 on April 07, 2015, 03:50:14 PM
i read the 28th of April somewhere
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: SSJ3_Goku345 on April 18, 2015, 08:28:41 AM
Sorry, everybody. No news yet. I just wanted to point that the next issue of the official magazine may come out the last week of this month... we should know something new by that week, shouldn't we?

Haven't seen enough footage or images by now, but don't you think the character designs resemble 2011 TV Specials? I'm starting to get fed up of almost every production getting 1st series character design revisions...

Don't get me wrong, I do like them, but they could try something more original, could't they? Koike's Lupin doesn't count, as it's not officially mainstream Lupin ¬¬
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: mikezilla2 on April 18, 2015, 09:23:02 AM
im pretty happy with the look they have going on the promo art .....
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Red Dear on April 20, 2015, 11:43:30 AM
NEWS:

Series will air in Italy this may forst and then in Japan this fall (you gotta get used to the italian
voice-actors, guys ! ;) ).

And Yuji Ohno will actually compose the soundtrack. I have mixed feelings about this. At the same time, this
is the beloved and revered Ohno but I fear his compositions will not be very inspired. I really want this series
to have a different feeling from the other three.

Source: http://www.cinematoday.jp/page/N0072597
(you can find a better visual in the same link, too)
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: penguintruth on April 20, 2015, 02:16:38 PM
I have to wait until the FALL? Oh, FFS, TMS. Honestly, few other anime studios have pissed me off as much.

I hope it's more like The Woman Called Fujiko Mine and Daisuke Jigen's Gravestone and less like... well, like anything else Lupin related from the past decade or so.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Red Dear on April 20, 2015, 04:42:52 PM
I'm sure people will manage to find streaming versions of the italian airing, so we won't have
to wait.

Without being frustrated, I admit it's the first time a Lupin III project is delayed this way. Lupin Central
speculated it may be because they decided to give the advantage to the italian audience who's far more supportive
of the franchise than the japanese audience itself.

The reason could also be the rumors of Kanichi Kurita's divorce and struggles but I would not bet on it,
as there is no official information in that regard.

Nonetheless, I think the animators and directors have been pretty clear in their intentions in terms of artistic and tonal direction, I don't need to copy their official report again.

For now, let's not jump to conclusions and, sigh, be patient.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Aelia on April 20, 2015, 04:54:32 PM
I don't think it makes much sense for them to have that much of an advantage unless something is holding up the recording of the Japanese version.  But then again maybe I'm just spoiled by the likes of Space Dandy and various simulcasts.

I'm glad to hear some news on it  though, even if it means more patience on my part. :)
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: SolHerald on April 20, 2015, 05:23:47 PM
*Sigh* So they practically keep the series in the dark with very little news, and when they do post news, it's telling us it is being delayed! Gee, thanks.
I'll pretend that there will be a small chance that the US/Crunchyroll will simulcast it the same time as Italy.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: SSJ3_Goku345 on April 20, 2015, 06:04:54 PM
I hope it's more like The Woman Called Fujiko Mine and Daisuke Jigen's Gravestone and less like... well, like anything else Lupin related from the past decade or so.

May God or your atheistic equivalent hear you.

For now, let's not jump to conclusions and, sigh, be patient.

Your sense and temperance is well-appreciated  ;)

Without being frustrated, I admit it's the first time a Lupin III project is delayed this way.

I know it's not official, but The Woman Called Fujiko Mine had a good chance for having been delayed. Remember that famous "mistaken announcement" on NTV back in 2011.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Fujikogirl23 on April 21, 2015, 09:18:32 AM
I'll admit, I too was a bit disappointed to know that I won't be hearing the Japanese cast for a while until Fall, but at least we got the series coming out regardless! That's better than nothing at all, if you ask me. :)


Haven't seen enough footage or images by now, but don't you think the character designs resemble 2011 TV Specials? I'm starting to get fed up of almost every production getting 1st series character design revisions...

Don't get me wrong, I do like them, but they could try something more original, could't they? Koike's Lupin doesn't count, as it's not officially mainstream Lupin ¬¬

Yeah. That's pretty much how I feel about the art style at the moment. Lately, everything for the past few years has been based on the 1st series look, but I do want something a little different that has a nice artistic balance in design. Also especially since I'd rather see Fujiko in a different hairstyle than the 1st series one. It happens to be my least favorite hairstyle from her, but that's just me. :P
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Red Dear on April 21, 2015, 09:59:45 AM
A side-note on the "1st series-like design":
It is no surprise, considering we have both telecom studios
and a chief animator of the Cagliostro movie that the new series design
might give this sort of vibe. But I would like to point out the fact telecom
does do some variation and that this design, as far as we can judge based on low-quality
pictures and the video footage we had from a Japanese channel, does retain some
Monkey Punch-like quality, mainly the way clothes fold and the very lanky proportions
of Lupin. Even his face while being definitely Telecom, seems to show more Monkey Punch-esque
expressions.

And Telecom did work on Daisuke Jigen's Gravestone, using Koike's design.

So I think that the "originality" of the design might come more from the motion than its base.

But yes, I wish Jigen and Fujiko had different facial features. Still, let's not spoil our fun, even if it's a delayed fun.

The more I think about it, the more the "Kurita having problems" route makes sense for delaying the series in Japan.
I highly doubt he will quit the role but he may have needed some time to breath.

And again, thanks to the pirate magic of internet, we will definitely see some kind of footage this may. ^^
I think the official italian voice for Lupin confirmed his involvement but I need to check my sources.
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Post by: mikezilla2 on April 21, 2015, 10:32:46 AM
Kurita having problems?

anyway cant wait for this :)
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Red Dear on April 21, 2015, 11:06:08 AM
Again, those are rumors and do not deserve too much credit.

But is seems Kurita is going through divorce procedures and you wouldn't
really be on the right mood during this kind of situation.  :-\

But I cannot stress enough the fact those claims, even if true, have never been officialy linked to the delay in Japan airing.

So once again, let's not jump into conclusions.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: mikezilla2 on April 21, 2015, 11:32:07 AM
i had no idea thought you were saying his vocals were a miss
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Aelia on April 21, 2015, 02:20:40 PM
If there's any truth to the rumors, required appearances in court would be a big factor as well.

The first I heard of this rumor was on some awful Youtube "news" channel though. So I don't give it much credence.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: GATSU on April 23, 2015, 09:25:27 PM
The preview (https://twitter.com/WTK/status/591412158488977408) is now available. Thanks, @WTK.
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Post by: penguintruth on April 23, 2015, 09:45:55 PM
My eyes... what is this water streaming from my eyes? Could they... could they be tears... tears of happiness?


Been watching the PV on a loop for the past ten minutes.
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Post by: Red Dear on April 23, 2015, 10:05:02 PM
If even Penguintruth is happy, what can go wrong ??  ;D

Seriously, I love lots of things in this PV teaser. If I really had to nitpick,
it would be Goemon and Fujiko's design but I'm not surprised and character
design isn't everything.

We have a Zenigata that seems to be both comical and serious, a competent and yet goofy Lupin,
a very engaging animation style with a bit of a "pencil-ish" line work.

And most intriguing: Lupin getting married ???? To the mystery girl ????
Who could be a rival thief ?????? It's not terribly original but it's never been done
on a series length and it could bring some engaging storyline !

It will be hard to wait, even for a month.  :D
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: penguintruth on April 23, 2015, 10:42:59 PM
I wonder if this is in its own continuity or not. Not that continuity is super important with Lupin. So long as it's good, it doesn't matter much, I just like the Fujiko Mine TV/Daisuke Jigen's Gravestone continuity that's come up. It's the attitude. But I don't mind a little more silliness, just as long as Lupin's willing to use that gun.
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Post by: Red Dear on April 23, 2015, 10:52:32 PM
I trust the directors and chief animators for keeping the balance
between light hearted and serious. They said it during the first news.
They will try to keep in with all aspects of Lupin the Third.

As for the continuity, interesting question.

The Mine Fujiko series is clearly set before series one (1971), as they tried hard not to contradict it (Goemon not meeting with Lupin or Jigen). The Jigen movie is a bit of an old duck, even more weird with the inclusion of Mamo (which pretty awesome).

As for this new series, it could well be its own timeline or making reference to the previous three tv series.
Only time will tell.

But yeah, Lupin canon is a loose canon (sorry for the pun). ^^
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: JayAukie on April 24, 2015, 12:09:46 AM
It looks pretty good. This is  I agree with Goemon's design looks a bit weird only because he seems very young looking. It looks like that they are doing a lupin getting married episode the look on Jigen's face is hilarious and I like the hairdo that they gave fujiko for in the clip as well and it's hard to tell be it looks like she might be upset about Lupin getting married.
 The inclusion of Mamo in the Jigen movie was pretty awesome I liked how the masked men worked for him and it showed that he was starting to have an obsession with Fujiko. I'm glad they hinted that we was behind the events of the Fujiko plot line with his alias initials on the mansion and on the the head masked mans tie. anyways hopefully with this series Yuji Ohno will do a new opening and ending theme and not just a remix of the classic one.
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Post by: GATSU on April 24, 2015, 02:20:17 AM
Nothing new, but ANN summarized Tomanaga's approach (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-04-24/new-lupin-iii-tv-anime-promo-previews-characters-setting/.87466) to the series.
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Post by: SolHerald on April 24, 2015, 04:41:53 AM
All aboard the hype train!
No, but seriously the trailer put the biggest and stupidest smile on my face. My only two complaints are Goemon's eyes, he looks to cute, and the girl, I'm not saying it is bad, but TMS hasn't had a very good record with random girls in the Lupin franchise, hopefully she won't try and take the spotlight.
(and does anyone else miss the the Mercedes SSK?)
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Post by: SSJ3_Goku345 on April 24, 2015, 04:43:36 AM
Looks very well. I like the character designs, and they look beautiful in motion. This series is indeed aiming to have a 'unique' feel to it. Looks classy, too.

On the "1st series-like design" mini-discussion... Let me say: Telecom's designing style in, for example, Nostradamus or Fuma remains among my all-time favorites. And I felt really happy when I noticed Jigen's Gravestone was animated by Telecom; the animation was truly awesome. I was thinking maybe they could have taken a different route in character designing means.

What I wonder about now is the length... What do you think about that? Would you like it to be around 26 episodes or less? 'Cause I don't think it'll be more than that...

All aboard the hype train!
No, but seriously the trailer put the biggest and stupidest smile on my face. My only two complaints are Goemon's eyes, he looks to cute, and the girl, I'm not saying it is bad, but TMS hasn't had a very good record with random girls in the Lupin franchise, hopefully she won't try and take the spotlight.

Hum, hopefully not. Please!

(and does anyone else miss the the Mercedes SSK?)

I'd like a cameo appearance of this.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: mikezilla2 on April 24, 2015, 04:48:48 AM
guessing this will be towards the end of may ? that is we don't have a date yet?
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: blackjacket on April 24, 2015, 11:01:43 AM
guessing this will be towards the end of may ? that is we don't have a date yet?

On the official youtube video, there is a date in Japanese saying something about May.
I suppose that is the month when this new series will start airing in Japan, right? Not Italy broadcast date.

Anyway, I have no idea how long this show will be. I wonder if this will have a long plot, instead of having standalone episodes.
And I wonder if they will have a variation of classic Lupin III theme song, or completely a new one?
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Post by: Aelia on April 24, 2015, 11:22:45 AM
I wish there had been a little more new footage. Other than that, HYPE.

(and does anyone else miss the the Mercedes SSK?)

I do. But I think the Fiat was inevitable with the Italian setting.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Fujikogirl23 on April 24, 2015, 12:16:25 PM
I've never been so hyped for anything like this since Zankyou no Terror (expect probably a bit more than that one)!!!! :D

Now I am SO ready to watch this!!! And now that we had a better look at the art style on each character, I'm actually digging it! Even Fujiko's look has a nice touch now with the eye shadow and lipstick and I usually am not a fan of her 1st series look! Can't wait!!!  ;D
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Post by: Reed on April 24, 2015, 04:37:30 PM
On the official youtube video, there is a date in Japanese saying something about May.
I suppose that is the month when this new series will start airing in Japan, right? Not Italy broadcast date.

It explicitly says that it will debut in May in Italy. Japanese broadcast is much later, in the Fall. I would expect NA to be waiting for a Japanese feed before we see somewhere like Funimation or Crunchyroll (or less likely, Daisuki) snag it.

Re: the Lupin theme, Ohno reportedly wanted to use a new version of Theme of Lupin the Third as the OP theme for Part III, but his existing record contracts kept him from being able to use it. (They made a special arrangement to include the song in the Legend of the Gold of Babylon film.) I think all those limitations are old news now... I mean, the TV specials have all used the Lupin theme, and the trailer uses it. I wouldn't be surprised if we get it. In fact, one of the official new series tweets mentions the Lupin Theme specifically, but I didn't check whether it was saying they'd use it or just saying "Yuji Ohno, composer of the Theme of Lupin the Third, is doing the music."
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: penguintruth on April 24, 2015, 05:31:27 PM
They should feature the classic '78 theme (or some version thereof, like the trailer's '79 version) within the show somewhere, but it shouldn't be the actual opening theme of the show. That one should be new.

I love Yuji Ohno, but it's time for him to branch out a little.
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Post by: blackjacket on April 24, 2015, 06:57:24 PM
It explicitly says that it will debut in May in Italy. Japanese broadcast is much later, in the Fall. I would expect NA to be waiting for a Japanese feed before we see somewhere like Funimation or Crunchyroll (or less likely, Daisuki) snag it.

Re: the Lupin theme, Ohno reportedly wanted to use a new version of Theme of Lupin the Third as the OP theme for Part III, but his existing record contracts kept him from being able to use it. (They made a special arrangement to include the song in the Legend of the Gold of Babylon film.) I think all those limitations are old news now... I mean, the TV specials have all used the Lupin theme, and the trailer uses it. I wouldn't be surprised if we get it. In fact, one of the official new series tweets mentions the Lupin Theme specifically, but I didn't check whether it was saying they'd use it or just saying "Yuji Ohno, composer of the Theme of Lupin the Third, is doing the music."

Ok, Thanks for the info! So we have to wait much later than May. OK, I can deal with that.
Still curious who will be doing the music there.


They should feature the classic '78 theme (or some version thereof, like the trailer's '79 version) within the show somewhere, but it shouldn't be the actual opening theme of the show. That one should be new.

I love Yuji Ohno, but it's time for him to branch out a little.

Since around 2006, Yuji Ohno has abandoned funk in his Lupin III OSTs. I do like Jazz and Jazz is the way to go with Lupin III,
but without the funk, I felt his recent Lupin III music has been rather "less lively" and lost its vividness.
If he does work on this new Lupin series, I hope he composes a new funky and lively Lupin III theme.

As for the opening song, I hope to hear some nice fast beat Jazzy song.

Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: SolHerald on April 26, 2015, 01:43:47 AM
They should feature the classic '78 theme (or some version thereof, like the trailer's '79 version) within the show somewhere, but it shouldn't be the actual opening theme of the show. That one should be new.

I love Yuji Ohno, but it's time for him to branch out a little.
Ya, Yuji Ohno is awesome, but he needs to stay fresh. If I here the Lupin the Third '78 Theme 2002 version one more time...
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Red Dear on April 26, 2015, 02:13:11 AM
I'm just shooting in the dark at this point but since this is
a different series, with a different setting and tone, I think they would
at least remix the better known theme.

So far, each series, even the ones with music by Yuji Ohno, had a very distinct
feel from one another.

Since they want this installment to be unique and yet familiar, I think they will try and create
some new music. I sincerely hope they won't use (too much of) the red jacket titles, as cool as they are
on their own.

And it's been quite a while since I've listened to the italian dub so it will be a pleasur to hear it again.
I think the Italian dub is one of the better ones, keeping with the energy of the original japanese dub. :)
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: penguintruth on April 26, 2015, 02:32:27 AM
I've never heard any other foreign language dubs of Lupin III before, maybe I'll check out the Italian one. Have they always kept Lupin one voice actor or gone with many like in the many English dubs? I guess it depends on how many licensors Lupin has had in Italy, right?
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Red Dear on April 26, 2015, 04:22:26 AM
Roberto del Guidicce, who dubbed Lupin in Italian from almost the start
died in 2002. I think his replacement is decent. As for the rest of the cast,
I think it fluctuated a bit more but I should find more data.

That's a good question you brought up, Penguintruth. ;)
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: GATSU on April 27, 2015, 12:25:02 AM
If you keep up with the official Lupin magazines in Japan, they'll be covering the series in the new issue (https://www.facebook.com/LupinNW/photos/a.316923838366285.74244.210626165662720/867675163291147/?type=1&theater).
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Shin Lupin Sansei on April 28, 2015, 05:27:27 PM
Do we have any idea of an Episode count for the series? Is it a single 13 ep series like Fujiko or are they shooting for the moon and doing as many as they can if ratings hold?
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Red Dear on April 28, 2015, 06:19:38 PM
We don't have information on the episode count yet but I'm quite certain this
info will be revealed in the Lupin III Official Magazine. ;)
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: SSJ3_Goku345 on April 28, 2015, 07:52:29 PM
Do we have any idea of an Episode count for the series? Is it a single 13 ep series like Fujiko or are they shooting for the moon and doing as many as they can if ratings hold?

I expect something between 24-26 episodes.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: GATSU on April 28, 2015, 08:45:50 PM
I can't imagine it being more than 13 eps, like last time. It's tough enough for them to come up with new material for those 90-minute specials.
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Post by: mikezilla2 on April 29, 2015, 08:21:15 AM
some of the promo stuff said they were wanting to aim for 26.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: GATSU on April 29, 2015, 10:12:06 AM
If they can get that many, good for them. But this is clearly not the same era as the one where you could just crank 'em out, and people wouldn't notice they were rarely interchangeable, and that they even jumped the shark one too many times. I mean, they tried to repeat that approach with pink jacket, and we know what happened there. Viewers are a little more discerning nowadays. What TMS ought to do is spring for popular non-Lupin manga and novel writers in Japan to contribute to the scripts for each episode. That's what they do with a lot of American and British genre shows, nowadays, right? Hire comic writers and authors to help write these series.  For example, Neil Gaiman and Dr. Who.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Rhys2753 on April 29, 2015, 05:18:22 PM
Personally I'd hope for a 2 cour series structured like Cowboy Bebop, mostly one offs with an underlying storyline that shows up after a bit that isn't universe changing.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Fujiko Lover on April 30, 2015, 09:28:47 AM
Personally I'd hope for a 2 cour series structured like Cowboy Bebop, mostly one offs with an underlying storyline that shows up after a bit that isn't universe changing.
I've been saying this for years. It's the perfect formula for a Lupin series. He spends the full run plotting some major heist, and we follow that as a sub-plot throughout a bunch of one-off shows with smaller jobs in each episode. Then the 2-part finale brings everything together.
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Post by: Aelia on April 30, 2015, 01:59:13 PM
What TMS ought to do is spring for popular non-Lupin manga and novel writers in Japan to contribute to the scripts for each episode. That's what they do with a lot of American and British genre shows, nowadays, right? Hire comic writers and authors to help write these series.  For example, Neil Gaiman and Dr. Who.

For how many adaptations of light novels and manga there are these days, there are surprisingly few authors with experience in writing for animation.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: fantasticmrfox on April 30, 2015, 04:36:31 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if they're deadset on begging miyazaki to contribute an episode, considering he has semi retired from feature films.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Aelia on May 01, 2015, 01:30:02 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if they're deadset on begging miyazaki to contribute an episode, considering he has semi retired from feature films.

I would be surprised if he agreed to do it. I was always under the impression that he was very much done with Lupin after the final episode of the second series.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: VampireNaomi on May 23, 2015, 05:01:10 AM
So, is this still starting in Italy next week? Last time I talked to my Italian friend, she said no specific date had been announced.

Also, various websites list Kiyoshi Kobayashi as Jigen, but I haven't seen any news articles mention that. Has the cast been confirmed, or is that just an assumption? As much as I enjoy and respect his work, I kind of wish he'd retire because Jigen sounds too old to me these days. It worked in the bleak atmosphere of the Fujiko Mine series, but the new series seems to have a totally different tone. Though I might be a bit overly aware of the difference because I've been rewatching the 1971 series lately.

Anyway, I haven't seen Jigen's Gravestone yet because I'm waiting for the Discotek release, but I agree with everyone who said it would be a fitting place to hand over the character to someone younger.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: LupinfromItaly on May 23, 2015, 09:13:06 AM
LupinIII's Fans in Italy? Where???

So I'm so exited for this new serie: LupinIII is ALIVE!!! :-D

Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Reed on May 23, 2015, 08:47:45 PM
So, is this still starting in Italy next week? Last time I talked to my Italian friend, she said no specific date had been announced.

Also, various websites list Kiyoshi Kobayashi as Jigen, but I haven't seen any news articles mention that. Has the cast been confirmed, or is that just an assumption?

I could be misremembering, but didn't the latest teaser trailer for the series have a bit of dialogue? Maybe Jigen had a line or two?

I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't make May. The split between Italy and Japan release dates are probably not without cause (i.e., Italian run will be done fly-by-seat-of-pants and the Japanese run more consistent and cleaned-up).
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: VampireNaomi on May 24, 2015, 03:31:05 AM
I could be misremembering, but didn't the latest teaser trailer for the series have a bit of dialogue? Maybe Jigen had a line or two?

Really? I've only seen this one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6pky53HwFE), so if any others have been posted, then I've completely missed them.
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Post by: SSJ3_Goku345 on May 24, 2015, 08:13:59 AM
There is only a preview and there's no dialogue at all in it, I'm afraid.

If the series doesn't make May -which I agree with Reed, is very possible- I will start feeling that there's not much hope for this series to become something more like a tribute for the fanbase... In other words, what we have been getting for the past two decades. Simply terrible.

And what it worse is that even TMS seem to care a bit about it. Why don't you put it in official hiatus in the first place and wait whatever has to happen to make a proper recording of the dialogues?
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Post by: mikezilla2 on May 24, 2015, 01:23:03 PM
throught zeni had a line ?
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Akai Shuichi on May 24, 2015, 01:43:54 PM
No, nobody has any lines.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!
Post by: Aelia on May 26, 2015, 06:09:53 PM
There is only a preview and there's no dialogue at all in it, I'm afraid.

If the series doesn't make May -which I agree with Reed, is very possible- I will start feeling that there's not much hope for this series to become something more like a tribute for the fanbase... In other words, what we have been getting for the past two decades. Simply terrible.

And what it worse is that even TMS seem to care a bit about it. Why don't you put it in official hiatus in the first place and wait whatever has to happen to make a proper recording of the dialogues?

A delay could iron out any problems that have arisen or make little changes. So, it's not necessarily a bad thing.

But, like you, I just wish TMS would make some kind of announcement. I don't expect them to be forthcoming with any information about why the delay is occurring, but at least a "Sorry, you'll have to be a little more patient" would be nice.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: GATSU on May 27, 2015, 01:39:04 AM
Link (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-05-26/new-lupin-iii-show-to-launch-with-lupin-wedding-to-new-beauty/.88590) says TMS retracted its prior estimated May air date.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: LupinfromItaly on May 27, 2015, 03:37:36 AM
Lupin's italian traslator is at work, but I don't Know if he's translating the new Series or the live action.
14june I work with San Marino Comics. If I find information...I tell you something! :-)
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Post by: GATSU on May 27, 2015, 04:50:20 AM
Thanks, L-Italy. :)
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: GATSU on June 03, 2015, 05:20:55 AM
Someone on ANN says it's been pushed back to Autumn (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2970711&start=30).
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: mikezilla2 on June 03, 2015, 07:30:16 AM
in Autumn ? whats the climate ment to be in EU atm ? im guessing he made a typo ether way i was hoping to see this in june  :-[
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: SSJ3_Goku345 on June 03, 2015, 09:32:59 AM
Someone on ANN says it's been pushed back to Autumn (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2970711&start=30).

Haven't found anything to back this. However, I have found this statement in Rai TV's official website:
Quote
The new episodes will be broadcast in Italy (Mediaset) between May and June, in Japan in October.

That should clear some issues by now.
 
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: bolt7 on June 06, 2015, 02:09:57 PM
Someone on ANN says it's been pushed back to Autumn (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2970711&start=30).

Haven't found anything to back this. However, I have found this statement in Rai TV's official website:
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The new episodes will be broadcast in Italy (Mediaset) between May and June, in Japan in October.

That should clear some issues by now.

I suspect we'll see it near the end of October in Japan, as that's when the TOHO Cinemas stuff finishes!

http://natalie.mu/comic/news/143646 (http://natalie.mu/comic/news/143646)
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: fantasticmrfox on July 13, 2015, 11:23:43 AM
AUGUST 29! AUGUST 29! SOUND THE ALARMS, NEW LUPIN DEBUT OFFICIALLY SET FOR SATURDAY AUGUST 29 ON ITALIA 1!
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Post by: Red Dear on July 14, 2015, 01:30:48 PM
INDEED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! WITH FOOTAGE OF THE FIRST TWO EPISODES SHOWN AT AN ITALIAN CON
JULY 18TH !!!!!!! WITH A LIVE SYNCH BY THE ITALIAN VOICE ACTORS !!!!! AND THE REST 29 OF AUGUST !!!!!
LONG LIVE BLUEPIN !!!!!!!!
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: EatStatic on July 14, 2015, 04:48:50 PM
A few days ago I finally got around to watching Jigens Gravestone and thought it was amazing, a great return to form I thought. So I'm really psyched for this one :D
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: VampireNaomi on July 18, 2015, 09:08:08 AM
The Italian intro with lots of new clips can be watched here. (http://video.corriere.it/avventura-italiana-torna-lupin-iii/a6abd4a6-2c8d-11e5-94f7-9449122e9ae1) It took me a few times listening to it to warm up to it, but now I really like it. Italian intros are always upbeat and fun like that. And the clips really make me look forward to the series. Can't wait! :D
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Post by: EatStatic on July 18, 2015, 12:15:52 PM
Can't say I'm a fan of that music :P but the animation and style of it all looks great! :D
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Post by: Red Dear on July 18, 2015, 03:57:07 PM
To me the italian theme is uneven. And not because this is a collaboration between
two very different artists but because it sounds that some bits are too fast and breaking
the flow of the melody. But it's not unbearable either. If we wanna watch the series early,
we'll have to get used to it. ^^

And I really like what the new footage indicates: diversity. There is slapstick, action, humor,
fantastic (zombies !) and the style and animation are really enjoyable. There is a moment where
Jigen and Lupin go from their series one color scheme to the blue jacket one. I wonder if it means
there will be references to other periods of Lupin's franchise.
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Post by: GATSU on July 18, 2015, 09:32:29 PM
For some reason, I'm more interested in what the Japanese theme is going to be like than in the actual content of the show.  ;D
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Post by: GATSU on July 19, 2015, 06:37:58 AM
Man, spotted a Youtube link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at2j1BWrRrM) of the same intro, courtesy of @catsuka, and the Italian Lupin fans seem to hate it. Or is it the show itself they're trashing?
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Post by: SSJ3_Goku345 on July 19, 2015, 06:50:16 AM
Man, spotted a Youtube link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at2j1BWrRrM) of the same intro, courtesy of @catsuka, and the Italian Lupin fans seem to hate it. Or is it the show itself they're trashing?

They hate the singer, Moreno. And the song, in general.

So do I.
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Post by: SolHerald on July 19, 2015, 08:29:06 AM
Well, I guess I'm waiting for the Japanese. That's an incredibly awful opening, the song is terrible, and although the animation is nice, they just throw together clips from the trailers, it looks more like a youtube amv then an anime opening. I don't know much about Italian Lupin openings, are they all like that?
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Post by: SSJ3_Goku345 on July 19, 2015, 10:25:37 AM
Well, I guess I'm waiting for the Japanese. That's an incredibly awful opening, the song is terrible, and although the animation is nice, they just throw together clips from the trailers, it looks more like a youtube amv then an anime opening. I don't know much about Italian Lupin openings, are they all like that?

Exactly what I think. It looks cheap, and the title card is simply terrible.

Many of them are like this, indeed. There has been a tendency in Europe of using actual footage from the series in the intros, specially on the past two decades. You can check out previous italian openings for a example.

Looking forward to the Japanese opening sequence and the possible vocal song accompanying it.

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Post by: VampireNaomi on July 19, 2015, 11:21:52 AM
Yikes, the song really is getting a lot of hate on YouTube. Looks like I'm one of the few who like it. It's not that bad, even if rap isn't something that Lupin really needs.

Edit: Italian fans are petitioning (https://www.change.org/p/mediaset-no-alla-sigla-di-moreno-per-lupin-iii?recruiter=59405222&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=autopublish&utm_term=mob-xs-share_petition-no_msg&fb_ref=Default) against the song.
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Post by: SSJ3_Goku345 on July 19, 2015, 07:04:56 PM
I think I've been harsh in my previous comment; the song isn't that terrible, really. It's only I was hoping to hear some techno vibes in the opening... just like many other Italian anime intros.

Rap and Lupin can coexist. "Lupin the Fire" was pretty neat, actually...
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Post by: Aelia on July 19, 2015, 09:21:30 PM
I'm with the Italian fans on this one. The opening is really bad.

Rap and Lupin can coexist. "Lupin the Fire" was pretty neat, actually...

Honestly, I don't think the problem is that the theme is a rap song. It's that it isn't a very good one.
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Post by: penguintruth on July 20, 2015, 03:10:12 AM
That song is an abomination. Like The Last Job-tier abominable.
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Post by: GATSU on July 20, 2015, 03:23:31 AM
So it's not officially out yet, just the intro. Or is that just a promo? But it's still scheduled for August (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-07-20/new-lupin-iii-series-italian-opening-august-29-premiere-revealed/.90651?utm_source=dlvr.it), with a 26 ep run. Thanks to @azabaro and @auraoo for the tip.
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Post by: VampireNaomi on July 20, 2015, 04:14:47 PM
Now there's a parody (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2DVB4uR6VU) of the Italian theme. Maybe someone who understands Italian can translate the lyrics?
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Post by: SSJ3_Goku345 on July 20, 2015, 05:22:43 PM
I'm with the Italian fans on this one. The opening is really bad.

Rap and Lupin can coexist. "Lupin the Fire" was pretty neat, actually...

Honestly, I don't think the problem is that the theme is a rap song. It's that it isn't a very good one.

Yeah, I think you are right. I honestly think that a Lupin the Third soundtrack can consist of more musical genres than jazz.

That song is an abomination. Like The Last Job-tier abominable.

Hold the mayo! That is the height of abomination.

Now there's a parody (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2DVB4uR6VU) of the Italian theme. Maybe someone who understands Italian can translate the lyrics?

And it sounds way better! My Italian is dirt-poor, but I can tell you that she's asking to leave Lupin alone.
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Post by: fantasticmrfox on July 20, 2015, 06:09:38 PM
Am I the only one who's nostalgically reminded of the green jacket by this opening? ....and dragon ball gt?
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Post by: Red Dear on July 20, 2015, 08:15:42 PM
What is the "Last Job-tier" thing ? As I remember, The Last Job had at least pretty decent
music.

Again, my opinion on the opening is that it's uneven and lazy in terms of edit but I don't think they
can do much more now, wether it's because of their method of making openings or because the series
might still need time to finish production.

But what is sure is that openings are not the absolute defining detail to judge an anime's quality.

Let's just hope the japanese version will be better. But I think it's more than probable. ^^
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Post by: SolHerald on July 20, 2015, 09:57:38 PM
What is the "Last Job-tier" thing ? As I remember, The Last Job had at least pretty decent
music.

^The music in Last Job was pretty good, so I'm assuming (sorry if I'm wrong), he's talking about Last Job as a TV special, not the music.

Again, my opinion on the opening is that it's uneven and lazy in terms of edit but I don't think they
can do much more now, wether it's because of their method of making openings or because the series
might still need time to finish production.

But what is sure is that openings are not the absolute defining detail to judge an anime's quality.

Let's just hope the japanese version will be better. But I think it's more than probable. ^^
^We're not judging the quality of the anime (which is fine), we are mostly judging the song.

Now there's a parody (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2DVB4uR6VU) of the Italian theme. Maybe someone who understands Italian can translate the lyrics?
^I like how the parody has been out for less than a day and it already has more likes than the actual opening.
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Post by: SSJ3_Goku345 on July 21, 2015, 06:04:22 AM
I assumed penguin truth was talking about the special, not the music. At least, I was  ;)


Now there's a parody (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2DVB4uR6VU) of the Italian theme. Maybe someone who understands Italian can translate the lyrics?
^I like how the parody has been out for less than a day and it already has more likes than the actual opening.

Me too. I wonder how the change.org campaign may affect the show...
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Post by: VampireNaomi on July 21, 2015, 03:39:56 PM
Here's (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTRJLitCPGM) another Italian video that I saw posted on Tumblr, this time someone being interviewed about the series. It features a few clips of Lupin and Fujiko with voice acting. Looks pretty promising.
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Post by: blackjacket on July 23, 2015, 12:47:38 AM
The animation looks very good, and since I almost always preferred original dubbing no matter what anime it is,
I am patiently waiting for the Japanese broadcast of the series.
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Post by: SolHerald on July 27, 2015, 04:48:02 PM
I assumed penguin truth was talking about the special, not the music. At least, I was  ;)


Now there's a parody (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2DVB4uR6VU) of the Italian theme. Maybe someone who understands Italian can translate the lyrics?
^I like how the parody has been out for less than a day and it already has more likes than the actual opening.

Me too. I wonder how the change.org campaign may affect the show...
Even with near 35,000 signatures, according to this: http://lupincentral.ghost.io/giorgio-vanni-responds-to-criticism/ (http://lupincentral.ghost.io/giorgio-vanni-responds-to-criticism/), Giorgio Vanni doesn't care much.
It's funny, here in North America or in much of Europe we have little power to complain when something bad comes out in the world of Lupin, we just bite the bullet, but in Italy, they try really hard to change something bad, and guess what, they don't care.

It doesn't matter to them anyways, since they know all the people who signed the petition are long-time fans of Lupin, and they are gonna watch it anyways, even if the opening sucks.
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Post by: GATSU on July 27, 2015, 06:27:07 PM
SolHerald: They seem to like Pink Jacket Lupin more than us. So maybe they'll finally know how we feel.  ;D
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: blackjacket on August 01, 2015, 11:55:02 AM
I know this is really late, but I personally just learned that Yuji Ohno himself is composing the OST.
I wonder if he is going to change the style a bit for this new series.
Anyways, waiting for the fall broadcast in Japan.
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Post by: VampireNaomi on August 01, 2015, 12:34:31 PM
The official site has character bios in Japanese now, and they're keeping Kobayashi as Jigen. I'm still a little torn on this as I've been watching a lot of 70s Lupin lately and I miss his younger voice, but at the same time I know I'll be incredibly critical when they eventually do replace him. It's going to be so weird when someone takes over the role.
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Post by: GATSU on August 02, 2015, 03:03:44 AM
Nothing important. I just spotted the Twitter (https://twitter.com/lupinIII_4th), courtesy of Sadamoto.
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Post by: SolHerald on August 02, 2015, 05:22:58 AM
I know this is really late, but I personally just learned that Yuji Ohno himself is composing the OST.
I wonder if he is going to change the style a bit for this new series.
Anyways, waiting for the fall broadcast in Japan.
I love Yuji Ohno, but I feel like the most recent soundtracks have gotten 'too jazzy,' I miss the red jacket series' funky sounds.
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Post by: GATSU on August 07, 2015, 04:44:46 AM
Looks like it's heading to Japanese tv in October (https://twitter.com/lupinIII_4th/status/629237374254346241).
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Post by: blackjacket on August 09, 2015, 10:30:33 PM
I love Yuji Ohno, but I feel like the most recent soundtracks have gotten 'too jazzy,' I miss the red jacket series' funky sounds.

I completely agree with you, because that is what I have been thinking about his Lupin III OSTs since last few years.
I really miss the funk in his music. I love that he incorporates jazz in Lupin III OST, but now it's too jazz only without the funk, as you said.
I think his last funky Lupin III OST was the OST for 2004 TV Special "Stolen Lupin".
After that, his OSTs have been mostly jazz only or variations of many old themes.
Nowadays, only occasionally, he produced some really cool tracks, like the Memory of Smile(Green vs Red version).

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Post by: GATSU on August 12, 2015, 06:18:04 PM
Via Crunchyroll (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/08/11/main-voice-cast-to-return-for-new-lupin-the-third-tv-anime):
Quote
The official website for the upcoming new Lupin the Third TV anime series has updated with the announcements for its main voice cast and TV stations in Japan for an October premiere. All of the recent five VAs, including 82-year-old Kiyoshi Kobayashi as Daisuke Jigen, will reprise their roles.

After three previous VAs for Goemon, Fujiko and Zenigata left the series due to their age (they are in their 70s and 80s) in 2011, Kobayashi is now the last remaining original voice cast since the first TV series aired in 1971-1972. Meanwhile, the VA for the new main character Rebecca Rossellini has not yet been revealed.

The new Lupin the Third TV anime will premiere on Nihon TV, Yomiuri TV, Miyagi TV, Chukyo TV, TV shinshu and TV Oita in October.

Announced main voice cast for the new season:

Arsène Lupin III: Kanichi Kurita (1995-)

Daisuke Jigen: Kiyoshi Kobayashi (1971-)

Goemon Ishikawa XIII: Daisuke Namikawa (2011-)

Fujiko Mine: Miyuki Sawashiro (2011-)

Inspector Koichi Zenigata: Koichi Yamadera (2011-)
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Post by: mikezilla2 on August 12, 2015, 06:57:38 PM
didn't the original  zen die ? or am i getting my wires crossed with someone else ?  good to know that this series will be picked up right away tho
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Post by: Red Dear on August 13, 2015, 01:18:41 AM
I remember Goro Naya was still alive after Last Job (2010) but retired because he was already
diagnosed with throat cancer. He died in 2013. So he did retire 3 years before he died.

Happy to have the regular cast back. ^^
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Post by: blackjacket on August 14, 2015, 12:43:38 PM
Naya Goro's last gig as Zenigata was the short feature Lupin All-Star Family in the TV Specials DVD collection.
Well, it is also the last time for the original voice actors of Fujiko and Goemon.
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Post by: Red Dear on August 14, 2015, 03:53:27 PM
Ah I completely forgot the All-Star Family direct to video. XD
But yeah, that was his "true" final job as Zenigata.
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Post by: Reed on August 16, 2015, 01:18:18 AM
Naya Goro's last gig as Zenigata was the short feature Lupin All-Star Family in the TV Specials DVD collection.
Well, it is also the last time for the original voice actors of Fujiko and Goemon.

Mostly true. It was on the Lupin the Third Master File, the one that also had the pilots for both Lupin the Eighth & Lupin 3DCG, and some other random stuff on it.
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Post by: penguintruth on August 16, 2015, 07:03:44 PM
The pain of Goro Naya's death is still fresh to me.  :'(
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Post by: GATSU on August 19, 2015, 09:36:03 AM
Hopefully, if you're not in a country which is region-blocked from seeing this, more pics (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/08/18-1/screenshots-preview-new-lupin-iii-anime-spoiler-warning), courtesy of @aicnanime and @QuiMediaset_it.

Edit: Ok, if you are one of those unlucky types, I found the original links.  8) Go here (http://www.mediaset.it/quimediaset/fotogallery/lupin-iii-alcuni-dei-personaggi-che-incontreremo_1056.shtml) and here (http://www.mediaset.it/quimediaset/fotogallery/lupin-iii-in-anteprima-le-immagini-della-prima-puntata_1063.shtml).
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Post by: mikezilla2 on August 19, 2015, 10:30:11 AM
why would that page be locked ?
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Post by: VampireNaomi on August 19, 2015, 02:12:48 PM
That's quite a lot of new characters. I wonder how many of them will be relevant and how many are random extras. Some of the past specials have left me feeling that the Lupin characters were just playing second fiddle to the new characters and their story. I doubt it's going to be a big problem since this is a series, but I do hope to see conflict and personal stakes for the usual gang instead of watching them accompany someone else on their journey and do all the paint by the numbers Lupin clichés.

Any idea whether this will be episodic or have an on-going story? I guess at least Rebecca and her secret are going to play a role from start to finish.
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Post by: GATSU on August 19, 2015, 11:10:13 PM
mike: 'Cus CR streams content which is not necessarily available in all countries.
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Post by: SolHerald on August 20, 2015, 02:43:34 AM
That's quite a lot of new characters. I wonder how many of them will be relevant and how many are random extras. Some of the past specials have left me feeling that the Lupin characters were just playing second fiddle to the new characters and their story. I doubt it's going to be a big problem since this is a series, but I do hope to see conflict and personal stakes for the usual gang instead of watching them accompany someone else on their journey and do all the paint by the numbers Lupin clichés.
^This is what I am worried about the most.

Also the two nerdy fat computer guys make me nervous, those two, along with the little girl with a sniper rifle seem like characters I would see in a more recent generic anime. I just really hope these side characters don't follow too many modern anime tropes.
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Post by: blackjacket on August 21, 2015, 12:21:59 PM
I wonder what kind of opening this show will have, especially what kind of Lupin music
Yuji Ohno will compose for the opening sequences. Opening sequences were some of my favorite parts
in the Lupin 3rd TV series.
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Post by: Psycho_Kenshin on August 25, 2015, 07:44:18 PM
Can't wait, this is gonna be awesome and Lupintastic. Or Lupintic.  8)
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Post by: GATSU on August 25, 2015, 10:13:43 PM
Ok, 'Mr. Lupin' just spotted (http://www.cinematoday.jp/page/N0075953) an October 1 Japanese broadcast date for the show.
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Post by: fantasticmrfox on August 28, 2015, 12:34:39 PM
Edit:Broadcast begins at 3:25 eastern standard time in the US on italia 1 for anyone interested. (9:25 local time)
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Post by: blackjacket on August 29, 2015, 09:54:41 PM
Since nobody seemed to have uploaded the link to the newer trailer with Japanese dub,
here is the link for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpGcxpOsIBo
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Post by: penguintruth on August 30, 2015, 06:28:20 PM
Just a few thoughts:

Episode 1:

- This show looks so GORGEOUS. The backgrounds, the foregrounds, character designs and animation, facial expressions, subtle movements. Unf.

- I like how the show works through its environment. Everything seems natural. Even the sparse CG works the way they use it.

- Rebecca is kind of a fun character, but I don't expect to see a whole lot of her, which is good, because I could see her getting annoying if she was too important.


Episode 2:

- Hey, an episode about soccer. Didn't the second episode of the Red Jacket series also revolve around soccer, specifically stealing the money from the ticket sales for a big game?

- By the way, I hate soccer.


Episode 3:

- Now THIS is what I wanted to see. This is the best episode so far, with Lupin squaring off against a British secret agent (James Bond?).

- This show has very little respect for churches. The shoot out here reminds me of Episode 5 of Cowboy Bebop. Or Episode 2 of The Woman Called Fujiko Mine. Or the John Woo movies those two homage.

- I like this guy's echo-location kind of abilities and how Lupin tries to neutralize them.

- Jigen, get down from your cross, man.


Episode 4:

- Jigen with a toothache... gee, I've never seen that one before (first episode of Red Jacket and Tokyo Crisis). But maybe the daily life of Jigen will be amusing.

- Hospital stuff, hospital stuff, more hospital stuff.

- Again, no respect for churches, and no respect for hospitals! FFS, Lupin show, those are sanctuaries.

- Do you really need, like, eight gunman in a circle just to kill some kid?

- Is Lupin going to be in this episode of this Lupin show? (Answer: Yes, at the end.)

- Wow. So far the show's been relatively bloodless, but that guy... that guy does not die an easy death.


Overall rankings: Episode 3 > Episode 1 >>> Episode 2 > Episode 4

So far, pretty good, though. Even my least favorite episode was decent. Still leagues ahead of those crappy TV specials in recent years.
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Post by: Red Dear on August 30, 2015, 07:20:25 PM
Pretty much the same opinion as PenguinTruth overall apart from a few details I'd like to discuss.

Episode 2:
Stricly my personnal opinion but I don't think the football thing makes the episode any less good. Yes, blackmail
in sport has been done in the franchise by the past but it's rare to have so much care and focus on the struggling player.
Plus, the episode's subject is the very real problem of doping and substance abuse in the sports realm as well as the
status of star players. And Italy being one of the three most obsessed nations about football (with Brazil and France),
having an episode centered around this sport in Italy makes quite a lot of sense. And for the record, I hate football too,
mostly because of the money and corruption.

Episode 4:
The mobsters circle around and shoot at the poor kid not in the primary goal of killing him, but because it's their twisted way of having fun
(think of Robocop). It's both cruel entertainment and punishment. And sadly, this is a real practice in some parts of the european underground.
The death is merely collateral.


So yeah, while very classic in terms of themes and narratives, I really liked those first 4 episodes and I'm looking forward to see where it goes next ! :D

It's a good day to be a Lupin III fan. ^^
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Post by: penguintruth on August 30, 2015, 07:50:56 PM
Well, also, soccer is a fairly big thing in Japan, too. Thus all the Detective Conan episodes revolving around it (and baseball at times).
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Post by: mikezilla2 on August 31, 2015, 01:39:07 AM
wonder if anyone's working on any scripts/subtitles yet
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Post by: VampireNaomi on August 31, 2015, 08:33:10 AM
I enjoyed all four episodes, even if I don't understand any Italian. The animation and colours looked so lively and pretty. The only bit that disappointed me a little was how small a role Rebecca had so far. They were really playing up her character and her marriage to Lupin, so I was expecting her to be a big player right from the start. But maybe that'll change later.
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Post by: fantasticmrfox on August 31, 2015, 09:56:46 AM
Should we have individual discussion threads or wait until the japanese premiere?
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Post by: DragonmasterDan on August 31, 2015, 07:55:30 PM
When did these start airing in Italy?
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Post by: mikezilla2 on August 31, 2015, 11:36:16 PM
29th .....

can we share subs by themselves on here ?
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Post by: sprak on September 01, 2015, 12:05:07 AM
Should we have individual discussion threads or wait until the japanese premiere?

I would suggest separate threads. Allows you to compare / contrast the two broadcasts. e.g., Did they clean up the animation between the two releases? Hey, did they change the billboards in the background?
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Post by: sprak on September 01, 2015, 12:08:52 AM
- By the way, I hate soccer.

And welcome to the banned list... ;)
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Post by: VampireNaomi on September 01, 2015, 12:15:09 AM
I've been watching some of the scenes again and I realised that I really want to buy the soundtrack for this series. There are some pieces in it (like when Zenigata gets thrown out of the wedding, or Jigen's western music in the fourth episode) that I'd really like to give a good listening to.
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Post by: SSJ3_Goku345 on September 01, 2015, 11:19:29 AM
How did they release four episodes already?
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Post by: mikezilla2 on September 01, 2015, 12:56:16 PM
heres part of a first draft sort of thing that someone did

http://pastebin.com/qkBQDfnL

show has potential  not sure when the rest will be subbed ?
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: fantasticmrfox on September 01, 2015, 03:34:39 PM
For some reason, I can't help throwing some of the Geneon-isms in whenever I read with the subtitle script attached. For example "Pops" whenever they put in "Zaza". Maybe if I get bored I'll mess with these subtitles and make a "Red" version of them based off this, the japanese dub and some Geneon/Epcar references.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: SSJ3_Goku345 on September 01, 2015, 08:26:59 PM
The episodes have aired with both Italian and Japanese dubs!

Now I'm even more confused. Why would they delay the Japanese airing date -and the overall airing dates- so much?
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: DragonmasterDan on September 01, 2015, 09:06:05 PM
The episodes have aired with both Italian and Japanese dubs!

Now I'm even more confused. Why would they delay the Japanese airing date -and the overall airing dates- so much?

Interesting,
Was there a second audio channel in the Italian airing with the Japanese dub?
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Akai Shuichi on September 01, 2015, 09:15:04 PM
Basically the channel carries 2 audio streams and you can choose which one to use. The delay for the Japanese airing might just be part of the deal done with their Italian partners. I'm also curious to know if the music track will be the same in the Japanese airing or not.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Snesgamer on September 02, 2015, 01:15:51 AM
Still haven't decided how I'm going to watch this. I really should watch in Japanese as I'm trying to learn the language and so that's probably better for immersion purposes, but then again I'd kinda like to watch in the original Italian as that's a rarity for an anime.

I hope they end up subbing both, I mean Italian is technically closer to English and therefore'd be easier to translate/sub than Japanese, right?
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: lit on September 02, 2015, 03:18:48 AM
The first four episodes are already available with English subtitles (with dual audio track, ita and jap).
Links: episodes 1-4 (https://www.nyaa.eu/?page=view&tid=730382).
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: GATSU on September 02, 2015, 05:12:02 AM
Snes: Actually, they dub a lot of anime into Italian. It might be rare for you to watch it in that language, though. I know it definitely is for me.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Snesgamer on September 02, 2015, 05:34:29 AM
Snes: Actually, they dub a lot of anime into Italian. It might be rare for you to watch it in that language, though. I know it definitely is for me.

What I meant was, the original language of the anime itself (as in, what language it came out in first) was Italian, not Japanese.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Red Dear on September 02, 2015, 06:37:27 AM
As a french speaker, watching the episodes in italian didn't bother me. I don't understand every sentence, mind you,
but I manage to follow the general picture. And thankfully, the animation, for the most part, speaks for itself so understanding
every word is almost inconsequential for me.

Also, it is indeed interesting to see that the episodes were already dubbed in japanese, on top of the italian dub. Maybe the reason
of the delay for the japanese release is more a question of anime season schedule. They might have been afraid the anime wouldn't
fair well during the summer, with the competion. I don't know. It's still pretty much a mystery.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: SSJ3_Goku345 on September 02, 2015, 09:09:50 AM
Basically the channel carries 2 audio streams and you can choose which one to use. The delay for the Japanese airing might just be part of the deal done with their Italian partners. I'm also curious to know if the music track will be the same in the Japanese airing or not.

That's it. I can't talk about the soundtrack yet, though. But, usually, they don't change it.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Aelia on September 02, 2015, 02:45:25 PM
What I meant was, the original language of the anime itself (as in, what language it came out in first) was Italian, not Japanese.

Why not watch both? I have several times by now.

It seems to me that they were done at the same time and thus both have legitimate claims to being the "original" dub.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Reed on September 03, 2015, 10:57:58 PM
Snes: Actually, they dub a lot of anime into Italian. It might be rare for you to watch it in that language, though. I know it definitely is for me.

What I meant was, the original language of the anime itself (as in, what language it came out in first) was Italian, not Japanese.

Because both tracks debuted simultaneously on the same broadcast feed, I don't think you can say the Italian audio is the "original" any more than you can say the Japanese is. I wouldn't even be surprised if they did that just to prevent such a stance. This is important because license contracts can often separate out "original languages" and "dubbed versions". What if, say, Funimation wanted to get Lupin TV '15 and the contract says it only includes the "original language"? If they hadn't aired the Japanese track simultaneously, that language would be Italian.  Oops!

Also, what Aelia said here.
It seems to me that they were done at the same time and thus both have legitimate claims to being the "original" dub.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: mikezilla2 on September 06, 2015, 11:09:30 AM
anyone have some sort of a data base with the episode air dates ?( for Italy) 
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Aelia on September 06, 2015, 02:11:30 PM
anyone have some sort of a data base with the episode air dates ?( for Italy)

Dunno. I've been using Mediaset's program guide on their website.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Red Dear on September 06, 2015, 05:08:02 PM
4 episodes today at 23:30 (italian jour). ^^
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Reed on September 06, 2015, 06:17:05 PM
I just see three listed on the schedule for today.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Red Dear on September 06, 2015, 06:21:58 PM
Ah, I may be wrong but the synopsis for the eighth episode is already avaible and it seems it
airs tonight. Heh, we'll see. ^^
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: penguintruth on September 06, 2015, 07:10:10 PM
Well, whoever was in charge of the stream I was watching cut after the third episode, so maybe there really was just three.

Also: ZOOOOOMBIIIIIES!
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Reed on September 06, 2015, 08:05:42 PM
Ah, I may be wrong but the synopsis for the eighth episode is already avaible and it seems it
airs tonight. Heh, we'll see. ^^

Can you provide a link to this information or anything?
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Red Dear on September 06, 2015, 08:38:13 PM
You were right Reed, there were only three episodes tonight. My apologies for the mistake.

But the synopsis of episode eight is indeed up:

 The Kidnapping
Brigitte, the young daughter of agent Nix of MI6 , is searching the autograph of Rebecca, but is kidnapped by a group of exploiters. Lupin inadvertently it subtracts the car of the kidnappers in which they locked up the little girl. Agent Nix, by using his power, is able to trace the car. At this misunderstanding also it joins Rebecca, with the intention of distracting Brigitte…


But more importantly: episode 7 had one VERY competent Zenigata !!!  8)

Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: penguintruth on September 06, 2015, 10:19:24 PM
Oooh, I'm looking forward to next week a lot more now. The Nix episode (Ep 3) is my favorite thus far, so him returning interests me.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Red Dear on September 07, 2015, 10:57:40 AM
Indeed, Penguintruth ! Nix seems to be a rather important recurring character,
as he appeared at the end of episode 1, was central to episode 3 and returns in ep 8.

Also, he seems to have a secret mission "Classified" with the access codename "italian dream".

Looks like this series, on top of the episodic short stories, might have a PLOT ! :D
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Fujiko Lover on September 07, 2015, 11:43:46 AM
I still haven't watched it -- waiting for subtitles -- but I'm really excited to hear that this series has something I've wanted out of Lupin for a while: an overarching storyline interspersed among standalone episodes! I mean, FUJIKO MINE had that too, but that wasn't exactly a traditional Lupin series.

Do we know how many episodes this is supposed to be? They're burning them pretty fast for the Italian broadcast!
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Red Dear on September 07, 2015, 12:56:58 PM
The latest info on the series's lenght tells us that it will last
nothing short of 23 episodes ! So 20 more than Mine Fujiko to Iu Onna !
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Reed on September 07, 2015, 04:52:03 PM
A recent Japanese article said 24 are planned, so it would be 11 more than FUJIKO.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Red Dear on September 07, 2015, 05:51:22 PM
Ah, once again I should have checked my facts. XD
Sorry for the mistake and thank you for the correction, Reed.

It's relatively rare to have 24 episodes per season nowadays (the 90's
and early 2000's seem far away now) with most anime seasons
gravitating around 13 episodes.

But having 24 episodes is really something great for us Lupin fans. ^^
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: mikezilla2 on September 07, 2015, 06:35:23 PM
http://goboiano.com/original/3337-why-anime-has-been-getting-shorter-and-there-are-fewer-second-seasons
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Fujiko Lover on September 07, 2015, 11:13:13 PM
Interesting. Thanks for the link, Mikezilla. Glad to hear this series is a bit longer than the typical anime these days. I assume that's due, at least in part, to it being an Italian co-production.

Also interesting that so many series are apparently 13 episodes these days. That's been the American model for cartoons for decades, and more recently for live-action cable dramas, too.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: GATSU on September 08, 2015, 02:41:20 AM
mike: I don't think it's just money and demographic changes. Before DVD, these studios could get away with 100+ episode series, back when casual fans didn't have time to sit through every single effing segment. After DVD, though, the fans started noticing they'd just pad that shit out with any kind of junk; and so these shorter series are partly a reaction to that era. So, basically, the writers would prefer stories which are tighter and focused to better boost the profile of these shows. That's no doubt partly why DB Kai came about.

And it might be for the best, because Pink Lupin had tons of bubble money thrown at it, and the quality was still terrible. [Although if anime could 'talk', Pink Lupin would be pissed off at how unpopular it was to fans, but not to video game companies which ripped the fark out of it. For example, that jetpack in Mario Sunshine was in one of the episodes.]

Anyway, back to the topic at hand.  Shunsuke Sakuya's been cast as a Brit spy (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-09-08/2015-lupin-iii-anime-casts-shunsuke-sakuya-as-british-spy/.92658) who closely resembles this guy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Line_of_Fire).  8)
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Aelia on September 08, 2015, 10:56:36 AM
Gatsu: I think that's an issue of money too. More specifically, the fan's money. Anime DVDs and BDs are expensive in Japan and that cost really piles up when you've got series with a lot of episodes. The most recent example I can think of is JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders selling worse than the much shorter Phantom Blood and Battle Tendency segments.

Also, I don't really understand the hate for the third series. The quality isn't that much worse than the far more popular second series, imo.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: GATSU on September 08, 2015, 09:05:58 PM
Aelia: The thing about Jojo is that people who wanted Stardust Crusaders already got it through the OAVs. No need to 'improve' on it, either, unless you really have to see all those unnecessary side-stories and characters from the manga included in anime form.

And going back on topic again, Pink Lupin isn't as great as it could be, but yeah, there are good episodes in there, if you're willing to sit through enough of them. Though compared to other similar anime at the time, it's clearly lacking. TMS was coasting too much on the success of the 70s show, and they seemed to only put in the effort to improve storylines when (I assume) ratings for Pink Lupin were in trouble.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Aelia on September 09, 2015, 03:55:19 AM
Gatsu: Both adaptations have their issues. The OVA cuts out way too much and, frankly, has the ugliest and dullest character designs I've ever seen in the portion animated in 2001. The television series on the other hand may be too literal of an adaptation and has problems with censorship and keeping a consistent quality with animation. Basically, if people want to experience it for the first time, they should read the manga.

Anyway though, I think that if failing ratings were an issue for the third series it was likely between tastes changed between 1980 and 1984 and they didn't quite account for that.  Taking in consideration what was really popular in 1984, it probably didn't help that it looked like none of those shows design-wise. This is all simply conjecture on my part, though.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: GATSU on September 09, 2015, 08:54:21 AM
Aelia: Oh, no. They did try to account for changing tastes. It's just that they lumped the worst things about the 80s and 80s anime together in that show.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Aelia on September 09, 2015, 03:56:39 PM
Gatsu: It felt more like they were taking potshots at the culture of the time. At least, I really hope they were. Still, what I meant was that roughly half of the series airing in that same year were mecha and science fiction.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: SweLupan on September 15, 2015, 02:13:55 PM
So far, I really like ALL of it. The animation is spot on, the stories are great, the voices are also top notch.
But one thing that (to me) feel a bit off.. The intro. Now, I have heard the Italian one (Not sure if there is a Jap one)
But something about it just feels... Not adventures enough. BUT this is a really, really small complaint.
is it just me?
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Aelia on September 15, 2015, 04:50:21 PM
So far, I really like ALL of it. The animation is spot on, the stories are great, the voices are also top notch.
But one thing that (to me) feel a bit off.. The intro. Now, I have heard the Italian one (Not sure if there is a Jap one)
But something about it just feels... Not adventures enough. BUT this is a really, really small complaint.
is it just me?

No. Most people seem to detest everything about the Italian opening.

The Japanese opening isn't out yet, but presumably it will be completely different.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Akai Shuichi on September 15, 2015, 08:21:33 PM
I presume this will be the opening that the Japanese version uses: https://youtu.be/Cbp4a9HcpHw?t=8
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: SweLupan on September 16, 2015, 11:40:04 AM
So far, I really like ALL of it. The animation is spot on, the stories are great, the voices are also top notch.
But one thing that (to me) feel a bit off.. The intro. Now, I have heard the Italian one (Not sure if there is a Jap one)
But something about it just feels... Not adventures enough. BUT this is a really, really small complaint.
is it just me?

No. Most people seem to detest everything about the Italian opening.

The Japanese opening isn't out yet, but presumably it will be completely different.

Thank you, so I'm not insane at least.

I presume this will be the opening that the Japanese version uses: https://youtu.be/Cbp4a9HcpHw?t=8

That would work much better, even if it's not that original :3
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Akai Shuichi on September 16, 2015, 11:52:13 AM
I'm a sucker for the Lupin '78 theme variations so I wouldn't mind it.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Aelia on September 16, 2015, 03:52:38 PM
I presume this will be the opening that the Japanese version uses: https://youtu.be/Cbp4a9HcpHw?t=8

Most likely, but I didn't want to go assuming that it was until I was absolutely sure.

Thank you, so I'm not insane at least.

I think it'd be more insane if you actually liked it.  ;D
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: SweLupan on September 16, 2015, 04:56:14 PM
I presume this will be the opening that the Japanese version uses: https://youtu.be/Cbp4a9HcpHw?t=8

Most likely, but I didn't want to go assuming that it was until I was absolutely sure.

Thank you, so I'm not insane at least.

I think it'd be more insane if you actually liked it.  ;D

Hue hue yeah ;)
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: penguintruth on September 22, 2015, 04:50:38 PM
Even though it hasn't been subbed since the first week, we can all agree based on raw Italian episodes that Nix is the best new character, right? Nix is awesome.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Red Dear on September 22, 2015, 08:16:12 PM
And freaking scary ! Awesome and scary !

If you've watched the latest two episodes, folks, you'll get my meanin'. ;)

But yeah, he is easely the best character ! Dangerous but sympathetic,
part of an organisation but with personal motivations, gifted but hot headed.
Really compelling ! :D
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Aelia on September 24, 2015, 01:25:56 PM
Yeah, I agree that Nix is the best new character. Granted, his only competition is Rebecca and I am not exactly enamored with her character.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Fujiko Lover on September 27, 2015, 01:12:28 AM
I got hold of the first four episodes to peruse, but I had to stop watching after the opening credits to the very first one. Awful! I took a few moments to "fix" it with good ol' "Lupin the Third '78": https://youtu.be/w2ymVyYDbtM

(Yeah, I know it premieres in Japan in just a few days and they'll probably have a proper opening at that point, but still...)

I've done a few other Lupin things on YouTube in the past, but TMS eventually had all of them taken down. We'll see how long this sticks around for.

With any luck, I'll actually watch an episode tomorrow!

EDIT: Wow, it was auto-blocked immediately. You'll just have to trust me that it's much better than the Italian opening.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: penguintruth on September 27, 2015, 03:42:22 AM
I got hold of the first four episodes to peruse, but I had to stop watching after the opening credits to the very first one. Awful! I took a few moments to "fix" it with good ol' "Lupin the Third '78": https://youtu.be/w2ymVyYDbtM

(Yeah, I know it premieres in Japan in just a few days and they'll probably have a proper opening at that point, but still...)

I've done a few other Lupin things on YouTube in the past, but TMS eventually had all of them taken down. We'll see how long this sticks around for.

With any luck, I'll actually watch an episode tomorrow!

EDIT: Wow, it was auto-blocked immediately. You'll just have to trust me that it's much better than the Italian opening.

Anything TMS does gets blocked/taken down pretty quickly on YouTube. It's why my two-part Secret of Mamo review video and Detective Conan Movie 1 review video had to be relocated to Vimeo.

Daily Motion might also be useful for that.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Fujiko Lover on September 27, 2015, 07:31:33 PM
Huh. Thanks! Maybe I'll look into one of those other options. I understand protecting your copyrights and all, but this seems excessively aggressive. What I made essentially amounted to an 80 second long fan music video. Crazy that it was just auto-blocked, too -- I actually received a notice from YouTube telling me the video was blocked a second before I received the message telling me it was uploaded and available for viewing!
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Reed on September 27, 2015, 08:52:15 PM
Hey, so what did you think of the background music in the show?
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: penguintruth on September 27, 2015, 08:58:55 PM
There are a couple of pieces that have grown on me, but I'm really looking forward to Ohno's music in the Japanese version.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Reed on September 27, 2015, 11:32:29 PM
I was pretty sure everything but the opening/ending is Ohno's music in the Italian version too. But I could be wrong?
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Aelia on September 28, 2015, 12:16:44 AM
I was pretty sure everything but the opening/ending is Ohno's music in the Italian version too. But I could be wrong?

The music composition is credited towards a band called 'papik' in the Italian credits. They also have it announced on their facebook account. (https://www.facebook.com/PAPIK-489337017775313/timeline/)

Anyway, I think they've done a really good job.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Reed on September 28, 2015, 01:54:28 AM
Ah, ok, so not in the Italian version, then. Wouldn't the Japanese audio stream that was attached to the first 4 episodes be the Ohno music, though? I have not compared the two, myself.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Aelia on September 28, 2015, 03:01:26 AM
Ah, ok, so not in the Italian version, then. Wouldn't the Japanese audio stream that was attached to the first 4 episodes be the Ohno music, though? I have not compared the two, myself.

As far as I can tell, both audio streams for those first four episodes have pretty much the same music.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Reed on September 28, 2015, 02:27:37 PM
As far as I can tell, both audio streams for those first four episodes have pretty much the same music.

Very interesting. Will definitely be curious to hear what Ohno puts together then, and see how it compares.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Fujiko Lover on September 29, 2015, 12:42:37 AM
I just watched the first episode, and I really liked it. In general, I just think Lupin works so much better in a short-form TV format than in movies. I've always felt that even the best movies (MAMO, CAGLIOSTRO) run too long and would benefit from a trimmed run-time. A TV episode is just the right size, though I do prefer when the TV show is serialized, as FUJIKO MINE was and as this one seems to be.

My likes were:
As for the music -- Interesting that Yuji Ohno apparently didn't provide the score for the Italian broadcast. I wonder if it was a rights/royalties thing? Did the older Lupin series have different scores when they were localized? I found this music from Papik pretty good; there were places it reminded me a bit of Ohno, but it actually sounded more like FUJIKO MINE to me a lot of the time: very subdued jazzy stuff with some mild funk worked in.

I'm very curious to hear Ohno's take on this. Looking at the track listing for the upcoming soundtrack, it's mostly all the same stuff you'd expect: "Theme From Lupin the Third 2015", "Zantetsuken 2015", "Super Hero 2015", "Tornado 2015", "Samba Temperado 2015", and more... I hope he puts a little more "oomph" into this stuff, though. All his work has sounded so bland and homogenized for the past several years. The score to 2003's special (RETURN THE TREASURE) had a very Italian flavor to it; can't recall if part to it took place there -- but it would be cool to hear Ohno revisit that style for this series.

Anyway, great start to the series; I look forward to more, and I hope it gets decent ratings in Japan because I would love to see a new Lupin TV series every couple of years.

(And speaking of music, here's my redone opening sequence, now on Vimeo -- thanks, penguintruth -- https://vimeo.com/140748546. We'll see if it beats the previous version's YouTube record of existing for less than one second.)
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: penguintruth on September 29, 2015, 05:00:16 PM

(And speaking of music, here's my redone opening sequence, now on Vimeo -- thanks, penguintruth -- https://vimeo.com/140748546. We'll see if it beats the previous version's YouTube record of existing for less than one second.)

Fantastic!

But I think the official Japanese opening might have you beat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=80&v=dvaosZlQqrY
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Aelia on September 29, 2015, 08:33:40 PM
Fantastic!

But I think the official Japanese opening might have you beat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=80&v=dvaosZlQqrY

Goodness gracious, I can't stop hitting the replay button.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Fujiko Lover on September 29, 2015, 11:49:37 PM
WOW. I am totally on board with "Lupin the Third 20015"! It's a great mix of "'78" and "'80" and it  even has a little of that Mediterranean flair I mentioned from the 2004 special, right around the middle of the theme (where the video highlights Fujiko). If this is the style Ohno uses for the actual musical score, I'm excited.

Great animation, too!
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Fujiko Lover on September 30, 2015, 12:30:26 AM
I just watched the second episode. Good stuff. The bodyguard/goon Lupin impersonated, Leo, looked like a character design from the second series, so that was pretty cool. And it appears we've met the recurring antagonist, Nix. I assume he'll turn out to be working for someone other than MI6, as it seems odd to make them the villains of this series, but who knows.  At any rate, hooray for slow-building serialization!
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Red Dear on September 30, 2015, 10:46:49 AM
Fujiko Lover: Nyx is indeed a recurring character but is a bit more ambiguous than a simple antagonist.
But I don't know how much I can spoil it here so I will let you discover it for yourself. ;)
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Fujiko Lover on October 01, 2015, 11:35:58 PM
I just watched the Japanese version of the first episode. I gotta say, Yuji Ohno turns in some good work here. There are a few updated versions of second series music, and the new material is more in keeping with his past stuff as well. I may pick up the soundtrack album (though how much of this music actually makes it onto the album remains to be seen -- it only has 19 tracks and the second series "soundtrack" albums only had a fraction of the show's actual background music. It was some time before the majority of Ohno's score was released.

As for the rest of the show -- obviously it was the same as the Italian broadcast, though I love the new opening as was shown a few days ago, and the title card and eyepatches, which are both throwbacks to the second series, are great too.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: SSJ3_Goku345 on November 26, 2015, 06:25:32 PM
How is the series continuing so far? No one's commenting anything anymore! Did it already end? (in Italy).
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: VenomousJacket on November 26, 2015, 07:59:11 PM
How is the series continuing so far? No one's commenting anything anymore! Did it already end? (in Italy).

That's what I was saying too.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Red Dear on November 26, 2015, 09:38:41 PM
Well, I'm not commenting in the forum very often, I'm more active on Tumblr or for my fanpage on Facebook so
I neglect the forum a bit. But it's still going on and I think the last episodes are this sunday. The two previous ones last
week were quite decent, focusing on Rebecca and Lupin's relationship with a bit more background on why they got married
in the first place.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: VampireNaomi on November 27, 2015, 01:12:00 AM
I have no legal way of watching it and don't want to see it so badly that I'd bother torrenting or anything, so I'm just waiting and hoping that it'll become available to me one day. But I did check out the first five eps. I quite liked the first four, but the fifth one left me feeling pretty disappointed. It's been a while since I watched it, so my memory is a bit hazy, but I had a lot of problems with it.

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Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: Aelia on November 29, 2015, 02:30:29 AM
How is the series continuing so far? No one's commenting anything anymore! Did it already end? (in Italy).

I've been watching and enjoying it, but haven't really felt much of a drive to talk about it.

I lost a lot of interest in keeping up with the Italian version even with the announcement that a few of the episodes will be BD only in Japan.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: MGFanJay on December 07, 2015, 11:38:10 PM
I've been watching and savoring the series. There have been a couple of nothing-happening episodes, but by and large, the show is fantastic and I'm glad to see the franchise feel fresh and relevant again with Lupin in a starring role.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: DrFurball on January 07, 2016, 10:59:29 PM
The show's kinda hit-or-miss, I think. 1, 3, 4, 7, and 8 have all been fun, but 2, 5, and 6 didn't do much for me. But then again, they can't all be winners, right? I'm loving this show's version of Zenigata, though: tough, badass, intelligent...but still prone to Lupin making an idiot of him. Actually, all five of the main characters have been portrayed well, and I really like the new characters, like Rebecca and Nix.

I do have to admit that the show seems to be a bit more realistic than the other three, with little of the slapstick or outright lunacy that I've come to love. I guess that, in a sense, it's more of a sequel to Cagliostro than the other three TV series, but I'm only, like halfway(?) through it, so maybe things will take a more Monkey Punchesque direction?

Nevertheless, despite my nitpicks, it's still a fun series, and I'm enjoying it.
Title: Re: New "Lupin the Third" TV series starting 2015, debuting in Italy (in 2 ways!)
Post by: GATSU on April 12, 2016, 12:17:45 AM
BTW, for those interested, someone posted the English translation for the Italian theme song here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Hus_FbVrFE).  8)