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Title: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: Reed on August 10, 2013, 07:33:47 pm
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20130809-00000014-mantan-ent

「ルパン三世 princess of the breeze ~隠された空中都市~」

Yui Ishikawa (presumably unrelated to Goemon Ishikawa, currently known for voicing Mikasa in "Attack on Titan") will be voicing the "beta girl", "Yutika"/"Utica".

Character designs here:
http://t.co/WCxYL3GunS

UPDATE 1: ANN Article: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-08-12/attack-on-titan-yui-ishikawa-stars-in-24th-lupin-iii-tv-special
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp Announced: "Princess of the Breeze: City in the Air"(?) airing Sept.
Post by: FilmmakerJ on August 10, 2013, 07:39:42 pm
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20130809-00000014-mantan-ent

「ルパン三世 princess of the breeze ~隠された空中都市~」

Yui Ishikawa (presumably unrelated to Goemon Ishikawa, currently known for voicing Mikasa in "Attack on Titan") will be voicing the "beta girl", "Yutika"/"Utica".

Character designs here:
http://t.co/WCxYL3GunS


Wonderful news for the slightly altered designs. I'm glad to know they're still going to keep shaking that up.

It kinda looks a bit like "Alcatraz Connection," with a little dash of one of those late 80s specials in some of the facial expressions. Looks like Fujiko is wearing something similar to what she wore in "Harimao's Treasure." But I thought we already had the 2012 special that looked like that movie. lol
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp Announced: "Princess of the Breeze: City in the Air"(?) airing Sept.
Post by: GATSU on August 10, 2013, 07:51:38 pm
Looking at the pics of Yutika. Seems they're trying to bait the tsundere otaku with this one.  :P
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Air"(?), airing Sept.
Post by: Mr. Foo on August 11, 2013, 03:39:31 am
Lupin's new face seems... less weird... and as a result... is more weird...  :o
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Air"(?), airing Sept.
Post by: Psycho_Kenshin on August 11, 2013, 05:45:18 am
Always happy to see new Lupin news.  ;D Can't wait to see this
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Air"(?), airing Sept.
Post by: Akai Shuichi on August 11, 2013, 09:51:51 am
This is amazing news! A movie plus a special in the same year!
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Air"(?), airing Sept.
Post by: SolHerald on August 11, 2013, 02:47:06 pm
Quote
It kinda looks a bit like "Alcatraz Connection," with a little dash of one of those late 80s specials in some of the facial expressions. Looks like Fujiko is wearing something similar to what she wore in "Harimao's Treasure." But I thought we already had the 2012 special that looked like that movie. lol

I think for the Lupin design they started to go for the Walther P-38 design of him, then threw in the Alcatraz connection cause they felt like it.

Quote
Looking at the pics of Yutika. Seems they're trying to bait the tsundere otaku with this one.  :P

I sorta like the look of Yutika, her design is a lot more interesting then a lot of other tv special girls

In this link http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20130809-00000014-mantan-ent (http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20130809-00000014-mantan-ent) it says it's the 24th special isn't it the 25th? (maybe I just suck at counting)
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Air"(?), airing Sept.
Post by: Akai Shuichi on August 11, 2013, 03:06:15 pm
Lupin VS Conan isn't counted as a TV Special. As it wasn't included in the TV Special BD Box, I presume they just don't count it as one.
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Air"(?), airing Sept.
Post by: SolHerald on August 11, 2013, 05:31:08 pm
Lupin VS Conan isn't counted as a TV Special. As it wasn't included in the TV Special BD Box, I presume they just don't count it as one.

Oh, I never knew that! Thanks it was really puzzling me! XP
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Air"(?), airing Sept.
Post by: sprak on August 11, 2013, 10:15:42 pm
Lupin VS Conan isn't counted as a TV Special. As it wasn't included in the TV Special BD Box, I presume they just don't count it as one.

That's an accurate statement; it isn't listed in the TV Special section (http://www.lupin-3rd.net/sakuhin_tvsp.html) of the official site. The spine of the Blu-ray doesn't have "TV Special" on it where all the other DVD/Blu-rays for the specials do.

Will be interesting to see if the film cross-over is counted on the official site...
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Air"(?), airing Sept.
Post by: mikezilla2 on August 12, 2013, 10:44:44 am
whats this crossing over with ?
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Air"(?), airing Sept.
Post by: FilmmakerJ on August 12, 2013, 11:06:34 am
whats this crossing over with ?

He's referring to the Lupin VS Conan feature film. Not this new TV special.
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Air"(?), airing Sept.
Post by: Reed on August 12, 2013, 12:15:07 pm
ANN finally put up their article:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-08-12/attack-on-titan-yui-ishikawa-stars-in-24th-lupin-iii-tv-special

Looks like I misread the original and it wasn't September, but just "this fall."
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: blackjacket on August 12, 2013, 02:34:32 pm
Wow, I am so excited that the Lupin vs Conan theatrical movie is not the only Lupin feature this year.
The title for this year's special reminds me of Castle in the Sky movie, which still sounds good to me.

I'm looking forward to both features.
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: Red Dear on August 12, 2013, 02:53:43 pm
I had the exact same though about the title. :D

Glad to know we will have a new special this year.

And I'm happy to see they ditched Lupin's white pants for this year. :P

The design indeed is reminiscent of Alcatraz and One-Dollar but with some
Harimao expressions.

Looking forward to it. :)
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: Akai Shuichi on August 12, 2013, 05:32:55 pm
Now, I just hope someone decides to release subtitles for this!
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: KoichiZenigata on August 13, 2013, 11:42:54 pm
I love the black pants and red jacket still. Sexy as ever. Never get tired of watching a new t.v. special every year
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: Doaj on August 16, 2013, 04:09:32 am
Very happy to see this.  Haven't seen any information on it anywhere yet.  Not even up on MAL, the anime site I use.  Just submitted a page for it there, though.  This sounds like a Laputa-inspired Lupin story to me.  I hope it manages to have the same charm.
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: FilmmakerJ on August 16, 2013, 11:17:48 am
Very happy to see this.  Haven't seen any information on it anywhere yet.  Not even up on MAL, the anime site I use.  Just submitted a page for it there, though.  This sounds like a Laputa-inspired Lupin story to me.  I hope it manages to have the same charm.


I actually kinda thought "The Castle of Cagliostro" already was a lot like Laputa. Except you don't have a quirky pirate crew, nor do you have any robots. But quite a bit of the rest of the elements remain the same.

"A young girl of royal blood, captured and held prisoner by an evil man who claims to be part of the royal family, wishes to take possession of the young girl's jewel which holds the key to the treasure of Cagliostro Castle (a large ancient fortress in the middle of a small, often overlook country). Then a young man, who's good with mechanics, attempts to rescue the young princess by piloting a bizarre flying machine past a castle tower. And at one point, a large armed forces from outside the country is called in to flush things out. And by the end of the movie, the Evil Count and what he thinks is the treasure, are destroyed and they crumble to pieces; revealing the shell of an ancient city."

Sure that's a bit vague, but the only thing that has changed are the design and names of things; if you exclude certain elements. I wouldn't even put it past Miyazaki that he took Cagliostro and worked it quite a bit more to get the general story of what he pitched to GAINAX, and then went on to turn into Laputa.

Now I'm not gonna go on a rant here, there's not reason or point to. But I will contend with some people that the plots of many of the Lupin TV specials have attempted to copy Cagliostro in some way, and it's getting pretty old.

Can't we have just one special that doesn't involve some other woman for Lupin to fawn over? Couldn't it be some other dude for a change? At least "Liberty Crisis" had Lupin pal around with a kid genius for an hour. That was kinda cool how they changed things up there.
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: Reed on August 16, 2013, 10:32:07 pm
Uh,
I thought "The Castle of Cagliostro" already was a lot like Laputa. Except you don't have a quirky pirate crew, nor do you have any robots. But quite a bit of the rest of the elements remain the same.

Not going to argue your point, just wondering why you started your post out with the condescending "Uh" on its own line, like it should be obvious to everyone upon first viewing.

Something like "You know," "It occurred to me that...", "What's funny about that is..." might be a little less rude and invite a little more discussion.

It's not like I've never said a condescending thing in my life, but I've noticed you post in this manner a lot, so I just thought I'd speak up and let you know that this is a thing, even if it is totally off-topic and I should've probably just said this in PM.

Thanks.
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: FilmmakerJ on August 16, 2013, 11:27:11 pm
Uh,
I thought "The Castle of Cagliostro" already was a lot like Laputa. Except you don't have a quirky pirate crew, nor do you have any robots. But quite a bit of the rest of the elements remain the same.

Not going to argue your point, just wondering why you started your post out with the condescending "Uh" on its own line, like it should be obvious to everyone upon first viewing.

Something like "You know," "It occurred to me that...", "What's funny about that is..." might be a little less rude and invite a little more discussion.

It's not like I've never said a condescending thing in my life, but I've noticed you post in this manner a lot, so I just thought I'd speak up and let you know that this is a thing, even if it is totally off-topic and I should've probably just said this in PM.

Thanks.

I'm glad you've pointed this out, Reed. Because you're right, I do tend to reply to things in a condescending nature more than I should. And I'm always trying my best not to rub people the wrong way, so this has been one of my most problematic habits. I will try harder to watch the way I write my posts.

I've now changed the post so that it doesn't start that way anymore. But I initially was not intending to imply that everyone should have known that Cagliostro was already like Laputa. It's more like I was trying to say "Wait a minute, isn't... Cagliostro already a lot like Laputa?" Cause I sort of just realized it as I was typing the description out.
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: Doaj on August 17, 2013, 01:53:38 am
I guess I more-so meant that they both have castles in the sky.  Which is a major plot device in Laputa.  If we're lucky, they'll take some strong cues from Castle of Cagliostro, too, but the similarities between this new special and Laputa stand out to me.

And don't worry, no offense taken.  It didn't come off that way to me at all.
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: Reed on August 17, 2013, 01:59:09 am
I'm glad you've pointed this out, Reed. Because you're right, I do tend to reply to things in a condescending nature more than I should. And I'm always trying my best not to rub people the wrong way, so this has been one of my most problematic habits. I will try harder to watch the way I write my posts.

I've now changed the post so that it doesn't start that way anymore. But I initially was not intending to imply that everyone should have known that Cagliostro was already like Laputa. It's more like I was trying to say "Wait a minute, isn't... Cagliostro already a lot like Laputa?" Cause I sort of just realized it as I was typing the description out.

Great work. Takes a lot to recognize when you have a bad habit and even moreso to work toward correcting it. Thanks for not overreacting.
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: hardware on August 28, 2013, 08:57:36 pm
i never thought i'd say this

but i'm kinda bored of these specials
after the Fujiko series, it ain't the same.

:/
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: FilmmakerJ on August 28, 2013, 10:56:51 pm
i never thought i'd say this

but i'm kinda bored of these specials
after the Fujiko series, it ain't the same.

:/

Weren't they pretty much the same old thing even before the Fujiko series? I got the impression that they all had the same kinda look, same over-done plot elements and such like that. Like "The Last Job" and "Return the Stolen Lupin" or what-ever that was called.
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: Arsene Lupin Sansei on August 29, 2013, 12:48:24 pm
Stolen Lupin or Operation: Return the Treasures.  Operation was a bit darker in tone. Stolen Lupin had a copycat thief. 
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: hardware on September 10, 2013, 09:41:05 am
i never thought i'd say this

but i'm kinda bored of these specials
after the Fujiko series, it ain't the same.

:/

Weren't they pretty much the same old thing even before the Fujiko series? I got the impression that they all had the same kinda look, same over-done plot elements and such like that. Like "The Last Job" and "Return the Stolen Lupin" or what-ever that was called.

Exactly. I liked Fujiko so much, bored of TMS Lupin now. The contrast makes the specials feel so neutered.
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: mikezilla2 on September 10, 2013, 12:57:43 pm
fujiko was way to vague for me but i did enjoy it
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: Red Dear on September 10, 2013, 02:23:43 pm
fujiko was way to vague for me but i did enjoy it

The fourth series indeed needs some extra effort to be understood.

As for this new special, as classic or "neutered" as hardware says, I hope it will at least be enjoyable.

And it airs on november, my birthday month.  ;D
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: blackjacket on September 23, 2013, 02:59:10 am
Do we have any date for this TV Special?
I wonder if this will air the same week the Lupin vs Conan movie gets released.
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: GATSU on September 23, 2013, 03:02:20 am
Well Lupin vs. Conan should be out in December, so if this is fall, we should hear about it sooner. TMS could be behind on it, though, if it's focusing its resources on the movie.
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: SolHerald on October 10, 2013, 08:43:04 pm
It seems that you can already preorder the Original Soundtrack for this TV Special!
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=VPCG-84959 (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=VPCG-84959)
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: blackjacket on October 11, 2013, 10:43:21 pm
Well Lupin vs. Conan should be out in December, so if this is fall, we should hear about it sooner. TMS could be behind on it, though, if it's focusing its resources on the movie.

I'm not sure if it is correct information, but Wiki says the special will air on November 1st.
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: sprak on October 12, 2013, 07:58:29 pm
Well Lupin vs. Conan should be out in December, so if this is fall, we should hear about it sooner. TMS could be behind on it, though, if it's focusing its resources on the movie.

I'm not sure if it is correct information, but Wiki says the special will air on November 1st.

Close but not quite. Official NTV page has it for the 15th. http://www.ntv.co.jp/kinro/
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: blackjacket on October 16, 2013, 01:05:33 pm
Well Lupin vs. Conan should be out in December, so if this is fall, we should hear about it sooner. TMS could be behind on it, though, if it's focusing its resources on the movie.

I'm not sure if it is correct information, but Wiki says the special will air on November 1st.

Close but not quite. Official NTV page has it for the 15th. http://www.ntv.co.jp/kinro/

Thank you for the correct and accurate information.
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: GATSU on October 25, 2013, 10:50:11 pm
You can find out more about the special and the Conan crossover in the newest Lupin magazine (http://lupin-3rd.net/news/index.html#20131025maga).

Edit: Trailer (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-10-25/lupin-iii-special-with-attack-on-titan-yui-ishikawa-previewed-in-ad).

Edit 2: If you have connection issues, here's the direct link (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22118652).
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: SolHerald on October 26, 2013, 10:03:10 pm
You can find out more about the special and the Conan crossover in the newest Lupin magazine (http://lupin-3rd.net/news/index.html#20131025maga).

Edit: Trailer (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-10-25/lupin-iii-special-with-attack-on-titan-yui-ishikawa-previewed-in-ad).

Edit 2: If you have connection issues, here's the direct link (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22118652).

1) Lupin's face in the beginning was sorta frightening. O.o
2) Animation seems pretty good.
3) I hope Zenigata isn't a bumbling dolt in this one X_P
4) I like pirates...
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: blackjacket on October 27, 2013, 03:24:38 pm
You can find out more about the special and the Conan crossover in the newest Lupin magazine (http://lupin-3rd.net/news/index.html#20131025maga).

Edit: Trailer (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-10-25/lupin-iii-special-with-attack-on-titan-yui-ishikawa-previewed-in-ad).

Edit 2: If you have connection issues, here's the direct link (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22118652).

Thanks for the link. This time, the animation reminds me of very little bit of the animation from 1997 TV Special "Walther P-38" a.k.a "Island of Assassins."
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: SSJ3_Goku345 on October 27, 2013, 06:05:45 pm
You can find out more about the special and the Conan crossover in the newest Lupin magazine (http://lupin-3rd.net/news/index.html#20131025maga).

Edit: Trailer (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-10-25/lupin-iii-special-with-attack-on-titan-yui-ishikawa-previewed-in-ad).

Edit 2: If you have connection issues, here's the direct link (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22118652).

Thanks for the link. This time, the animation reminds me of very little bit of the animation from 1997 TV Special "Walther P-38" a.k.a "Island of Assassins."

I thought the same thing!  :)

It definitely looks pretty good. Thank for the link!
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: Psycho_Kenshin on November 10, 2013, 07:22:09 am
Special seems very promising, stylish, looks fun.
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: Red Dear on November 10, 2013, 10:52:22 am
Weirdly, there is no negative critic on the fact that we will certainly have a "baby story". I hope the baby is not the whole plot of this special bcause indeed, I find the setting intersting: air pirates in a castle in the sky. Indeed, lots of Miyazaki's references but it's not a bad thing.

Also, more than one dollar war or Walther P 38, the character design is also close to Yasuo Otsuka's design for the first series. It's a blend of all those influences but what I like the most is the use of intense shadows.  8)
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: SolHerald on November 11, 2013, 03:58:22 am
Am I the only one who thinks the baby is kinda ugly?  ~.~
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: Red Dear on November 11, 2013, 05:05:04 am
Am I the only one who thinks the baby is kinda ugly?  ~.~

Like every baby in the world !  ;D (okay, i'm leaving)

More seriously, I didn't think he was that ugly but I may change my mind when I'll see more of him.
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: GATSU on November 11, 2013, 05:00:40 pm
Looks like it's already got a home vid release date (https://twitter.com/WTK/status/399935185782706176).
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: SolHerald on November 16, 2013, 03:08:32 pm
Day after airing, now, I just have to wait for it to be subbed XP. But if you wanna hear a little news on it  lupincentral.tumblr.com (http://lupincentral.tumblr.com) got some on it. And, apparently "fans" of the franchise dislike the glimmers in his eyes. Because it "makes him look like a moe."
http://animeshinbun.com/news/1385861/outrage-at-new-moemoe-lupin (http://animeshinbun.com/news/1385861/outrage-at-new-moemoe-lupin)
http://animeshape.com/2013/11/02/outrage-at-new-moemoe-lupin/ (http://animeshape.com/2013/11/02/outrage-at-new-moemoe-lupin/)
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: Red Dear on November 16, 2013, 06:31:38 pm
Just saw the whole unsubbed new TV special.

So it is heavy on the Cagliostro influence practicaly to the point
of plagiarism to some degree. It has good animation and cinematography although
a bit heavy on CGI (the vehicules) and some disturbing images (baby poop everyone and baby junk too !!!!!).

Apart from that, and even though I don't understand everything, it was still enjoyable and you can see how much of a
good, caring guy Lupin really is.

But I'll let you make your own judgement.  :)
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: SolHerald on November 16, 2013, 07:30:18 pm
So it is heavy on the Cagliostro influence practicaly to the point
of plagiarism to some degree. It has good animation and cinematography although
a bit heavy on CGI (the vehicules) and some disturbing images (baby poop everyone and baby junk too !!!!!).

Was the CGI done well? Cause I don't mind a lot of CG if it is done well, but I've seen a whole lot of bad CG that stands out like a mutated-sore thumb.


Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: Mr. Foo on November 16, 2013, 08:16:34 pm
Just watched it. I absolutely adored the CGI they did on the Benz, but it really stood out from the 2D animation, whether thats a good thing or a bad think idk. But I liked it.

(click to show/hide)

I can't say I had amazingly high hopes for this special, what with it being marketed pretty much solely on the Attack on Titan voice actor (seriously, this special was never mentioned without her) but, based on the RAW, I reckon it did pretty well. Maybe not as good as the last special, but I'll wait for subs before I make THAT judgment.
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: LadyLupin on November 18, 2013, 12:39:41 pm
Am I the only one who thinks the baby is kinda ugly?  ~.~

Like every baby in the world !  ;D (okay, i'm leaving)

More seriously, I didn't think he was that ugly but I may change my mind when I'll see more of him.

I think the baby looks creepy actually. It's just the way he/she is drawn. He/she doesn't fit with the animation style.
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: Tsama on November 20, 2013, 11:30:24 am
Hello again,

I have just finished my sub for this year's special. I'm unable to do a proper upload because (1) I'm living abroad and my connection's not too reliable and (2) I'm not entirely sure how strict they are with uploading stuff in this country. So I'll just leave you with my ssa/ass file and leave it up to you to mux it.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/l59i5u2qf74z4dp/Lupin+Princess+of+the+Breeze.ass (http://www.mediafire.com/download/l59i5u2qf74z4dp/Lupin+Princess+of+the+Breeze.ass)

This is specifically for the SOFCJ release. Some dialogue is missing due to some mishap with the broadcast, and every available release has the same problem.

If you wish to mux it and spread the joy, feel free. And let me know if there are any problems, I'm not entirely sure if I attached the fonts properly.
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: djcj on November 20, 2013, 01:09:26 pm
Tsama, you're a super awesome guy!  ;D
Thanks for all your translation works!
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: SolHerald on November 20, 2013, 02:30:20 pm
if anyone mux it, could they put it up for download?
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: djcj on November 20, 2013, 09:04:49 pm
And let me know if there are any problems, I'm not entirely sure if I attached the fonts properly.
The font names are a bit long.
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I changed the font names with a text editor, but SMPlayer seems to recognize them even with the long names.
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: SolHerald on November 22, 2013, 05:05:16 am
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What color is your Karma!?
Okay, so I was able to watch it, and the baby is not as ugly as I thought. XP Um, review time:

[NOTE: After listening to the Lupin Has Three Jackets Podcast, my eyes have been opened (er... ears), and I changed my perspective a little bit.]

Animation/art: was pretty good, the CGI was very good especially for Lupin's car, it was well done, but I can't decide whether I like it hand-drawn or CGI better.
And I didn't notice any big problems with smoothness of the animation, except during a running scene towards the middle; they basically looped Lupin running for like 30 seconds, which really bothered me.

Music: Good like always, Yuji Ohno is amazing, but the ending song, Treasures of Time, song by some lady, definitely was not as good as the original.

Characters: Lupin was done well, except that he has become some sort of father figure, and I don't think he shoots anyone once >.>. Fujiko is Fujiko, Zenigata is Zenigata, he is not a bumbling idiot in this one, yet he doesn't do anything totally awesome either. He basically takes shit from people, realizes they're evil, and does nothing. :( Jigen was pretty awesome in the special, most of the cool action revolves around him. Goemon barely shows up, and when he finally shows up it's for comedy, or to fight, sadly his fighting scene was short and sorta a letdown. Basically I felt like they forgot about Goemon entirely, and just went back afterwards to put him in a couple useless scenes.  The villains were cardboard cutouts, (oh, a greedy "merchant:-esque" villain? very creative, OR a pretty boy, who ends up being batshit insane... really!?)  I liked the "henchmen leader" villain, but throughout the special, I'm like, "this guy is gonna be a "Goemon foe,"" and an epic sword battle is gonna happen... that didn't happen. Finally, the tv special girl, I really liked her design, but she was as uncreative as they come.. Oh! wait! I totally forgot the most important character! Mr. G! ... Seriously, he was so random, but hey, he was totally awesome, and his voice actor was spot on. Mr. G gets the prize for best character. (The baby was okay as a plot device.)

Story: The story, in my opinion was the pretty generic "treasure to unlock the true treasure story" (I actually think Lupin says that exactly word for word in the special) What really bothers me is that Lupin has become some sort of supporting character just to talk to the main character in this special, Yukita. Seriously! Who's the main character? Lupin? NO. Jigen? NO. Fujiko? NO. Zenigata? NO! (They actually have him marked as support character on the ANN/MAL) Goemon? Who? Mr. G? I wish, would have been better. Random F-ing chick, that has no lovable characteristics, and is less creative than almost anything I've seen in a Lupin Special for years. MAIN CHARACTER! Graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh!!  >:(  Seriously, I feel like they are just making stories and then slapping Lupin and Co. on it, in order to give us the biggest middle finger they can muster up.

A question for people who saw it, what was the Soul of Shahalta? By the end I thought I counted four "souls." >.> Is the soul suppose to be like a perspective thing? The villain sees it as one thing, but Lupin and Yukita see it as something else?

Don't even get me started on the Cagliostro references! I thought some of them were cute and innocent, but then, after a while I felt like they started to put them in the special just to say to the those who have seen Cagliostro, "Hey, our special has Cagliostro references! See all these references!? These obviously makes up for the great Lupin sins we have commited!"

I read all the time that people were complaining that Lupin has gone all moei-moei because of the shiny eyes, but I say, who gives a flying-horse shit!? They should be complaining that they are slowly removing the Lupin characters, we know and love, from their own damn franchise! And replacing them with modern-crappy, cardboard cut out characters that the mainstream anime fandom will devour like those pigs with Lupin's crap. (this is actually one of my main hatreds towards the Mine Fujiko series.)

Anyhoo... rant over... 6.5/10. Although I really chewed it up in some regards, I still had some fun watching it. And I wouldn't have a problem watching it again. (Probably because of Mr. G...) Lower it a point if you can't stand the trope of anime guys getting hit for accidentally doing something perverted. (poor Lupin) Or raise it one and half points if you don't know that this is a Lupin special.  :'(
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: djcj on November 23, 2013, 01:11:47 pm
Here are my thoughts about this special.

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And by the way...

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When I looked up Google for "Lupin karma" these where one of the first picutres I had found, lol (NSFW, kind of...):
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Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: Tsama on November 23, 2013, 11:35:44 pm
A newer version's now available. Subtitles are updated using the error-free RAW, so no more missing frames.

I'll throw in my thoughts as to what I thought the Soul of Shahalta was supposed to represent (might be a long read):

Physically, it's the flying treasury. To the sky pirates (and presumably Lupin) it shows what Shahalta can accomplish despite living in harsh conditions (according to Yutika... dunno, seems like a nice place) and being a tiny and isolated country (according to the official story synopsis). They made huge advancements in aviation technology (again, according to Yutika... but I'd say there's a reason why we don't use airships anymore) and accumulated a sizable pile of wealth under their own power. Things went to hell when Kochel and his thugs interfered, overthrowing the monarchy, stripping away their resources and polluting the country.

That's probably why Shion snapped at the end. At first he was compliant to Kochel's every wish since he lost the will to do anything after he witnessed the death of his family during the revolution. But he knew that greed was Kochel's motivation for starting the revolution, so when he saw that the Soul of Shahalta was yet another source of wealth, in his eyes, the "foundation of the Shahaltan people's hearts" was nothing more than greed. Hence his hatred of both Kochel and Shahalta, and his determination to blow up the treasury.
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: SolHerald on November 24, 2013, 08:01:55 pm
When I looked up Google for "Lupin karma" these where one of the first picutres I had found, lol (NSFW, kind of...):
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 :o That's vile... lol

Physically, it's the flying treasury. To the sky pirates (and presumably Lupin) it shows what Shahalta can accomplish despite living in harsh conditions (according to Yutika... dunno, seems like a nice place) and being a tiny and isolated country (according to the official story synopsis). They made huge advancements in aviation technology (again, according to Yutika... but I'd say there's a reason why we don't use airships anymore) and accumulated a sizable pile of wealth under their own power. Things went to hell when Kochel and his thugs interfered, overthrowing the monarchy, stripping away their resources and polluting the country.

That's probably why Shion snapped at the end. At first he was compliant to Kochel's every wish since he lost the will to do anything after he witnessed the death of his family during the revolution. But he knew that greed was Kochel's motivation for starting the revolution, so when he saw that the Soul of Shahalta was yet another source of wealth, in his eyes, the "foundation of the Shahaltan people's hearts" was nothing more than greed. Hence his hatred of both Kochel and Shahalta, and his determination to blow up the treasury.

Cool, that was my to guess.
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: penguintruth on November 26, 2013, 03:15:28 am
Wow, this special really, really wanted to be Castle of Cagliostro.

Pretty production, for the most part, but full of the same billions of cliches and poor plotting as most TV specials. And I could have done without seeing the baby's diaper full of brown pellets and Mr. Elephant.

- Solid first act followed by the writer dropping the ball? Check.
- Mysterious girl with tragic background and generic personaility? Check.
- Evil businessman/weapons profiteer villain? Check.
- Gimmicky main henchman for villain? Check.
- Treasure that unlocks other treasure? Check.
- Plucky resistance force to evil government authority? Check.
- Goemon comes in and does all the work? Check.
- Fujiko serves no purpose outside of T&A? Check.
- A bunch of silly supernatural nonsense? Check.
- Lupin being punished for being a pervert even though he barely did anything, because this is 2013? Check.
- Treasure is ultimately something that can't be stolen/is given away (what was that, a bunch of green glowing rocks? Kryptonite?)? Check.

Don't let the production values blind you. This special isn't exactly a winner. But I suppose it's better than the usual smelly pellets TMS produces these days.

NO YOU DON'T GET TO USE FIRE TREASURE, SPECIAL. YOU DON'T GET THAT PRIVILEGE.

7/10 (mostly because of production values)
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: djcj on November 27, 2013, 08:54:37 am
A newer version's now available. Subtitles are updated using the error-free RAW, so no more missing frames.
Sounds great. I assume you're going to post them here when they're done?

edit:

Never mind, I already found it.
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: blackjacket on November 27, 2013, 11:12:45 am
To be brutally honest, for me, this was the worst TV special I've seen since... Secret of Twilight Gemini?

It was going OK, until the scene when the Chief was blocking all those goons with that door by himself,
when the goons had the guns to shoot through the wooden door.
That was ridiculous and there were other ridiculous scenes, like Lupin getting shot like that as if he were a total novice!
Plus, things got predictable, not just predictable that could still be fun, but really bad predictable.
And the prime minister going crazy towards the end was unconvincing...

The action wasn't that fun for me either. Some part I liked was the little humor with Goemon who keeps going all the way over to Japan to buy something for the baby, although that was a rather unfortunate excuse to have little of him in the special.
I noticed another reference to Cagliostro, as the name was actually written on a newspaper.

It made me think TMS staff were so busy with the upcoming Lupin vs. Conan movie that they gave little efforts for this special...
I'm hoping that movie will be good, but we'll have to wait for sometime next year before we can get subbed DVD rip of the movie.
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: SolHerald on November 27, 2013, 02:36:52 pm
To be brutally honest, for me, this was the worst TV special I've seen since... Secret of Twilight Gemini?

It was going OK, until the scene when the Chief was blocking all those goons with that door by himself,
when the goons had the guns to shoot through the wooden door.
That was ridiculous and there were other ridiculous scenes, like Lupin getting shot like that as if he were a total novice!
Plus, things got predictable, not just predictable that could still be fun, but really bad predictable.
And the prime minister going crazy towards the end was unconvincing...

I agree with the chief scene, that was silly; and honestly I feel as if it would have been better if
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But to say it's as bad as Twilight Gemini? That's cold... real cold.
Title: Re: 2013 TVSp: "Princess of the Breeze: Hidden City in the Sky", airing Fall 2013
Post by: Psycho_Kenshin on November 27, 2013, 09:15:56 pm
Ha, Twilight Gemini isn't one of the worst ones for me, middle of the road but I enjoy it. Thanks for the subs! Will watch this new one soon.