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Re: Episode 2: ".357 Magnum" Official Thread
« Reply #60 on: April 12, 2012, 04:33:37 pm »
Very cool episode, I enjoyed the first even more, but loved this one too. I will say I prefer a little quirky humor to Jigen and his more laidback style is part of his charm, but this is good stuff as well. Plus it leads into his decision to have a more laidback lifestyle, ha and from the concept art we know he'll laugh and smile at some point in the series.

So a gritty tale that fits Jigen's character. His life might have stayed that way, but
then he met the zany, fun Lupin who made life more entertaining for Jigen and the rest of the gang.

Agreed, it's a pretty nicely done origin story, though him saying "to hell with all that, I'll chill and be a thief" is pretty simple, that moment could've happened anywhere really. Still nicely done. I love how we're kinda seeing these characters alone and in danger, and we can see the threads coming together foreshadowing some alliances and friendships in the future.

"Don't worry, no matter what happens I'll never team up with you."

 I like knowing future things before the characters do. ;D

While this series does seem to be pretty true to the likable characterizations in the first green jacket Lupin III anime series, we technically don't know the future since this isn't a direct prequel. After all, we'll be meeting Goemon again next episode (like in the first series, and Episode 0 [depending on if you take that part of the story as truth or not]). This is a reboot isn't it? Technically anything could happen. Not that continuity is a big deal. Though I do hope it ends up with them all being a fairly happy if dysfunctional gang. Or at the very least, Lupin and Jigen partnering up, and of course Lupin and Fujiko partnering up.

Oh yeah, and how about Fujiko changing her hair color three times in three scenes, going from brunette to blonde to black? Brunette to blonde well sure, ha but blonde to black in two scenes with Jigen that's wacky, that's too fast for a dye-job. Wigs? If her natural color is brunette and she had a blonde wig then why did it go black... or is that one of her superpowers?  :P

As for other fantastic unrealistic bits, I couldn't help but laugh when the woman and her husband where pleased by Jigen shooting a cherry out of her mouth. Ha just thinking about the logistics of that in real life and how utterly crazy and hilarious that is. But I do like my Lupin to be stylized.  :D

Can't wait for the next episode. Looks like we might have two in a row without Lupin? I'd like it if he even just had random background cameos, like he happens to be getting a drink at a cafe in the background of some shot or something.  ;D

Oh yeah one question, when the woman said Fujiko is "a thief by day, a spy by night". What do you make of that? Obviously Fujiko is not in fact a spy, she has no affiliation to any government or even any criminal organization. Is this just a language barrier thing, using the word spy because James Bond movies were an influence, or what?
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Re: Episode 2: ".357 Magnum" Official Thread
« Reply #61 on: April 12, 2012, 05:49:20 pm »
Does anyone else find satisfaction in knowing that Jigen is the first of the core characters to get laid in the series? :P

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Re: Episode 2: ".357 Magnum" Official Thread
« Reply #62 on: April 12, 2012, 06:48:04 pm »
I just had to. A short Parody that I did based on the tea scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KXwL55NEvo

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Re: Episode 2: ".357 Magnum" Official Thread
« Reply #63 on: April 12, 2012, 07:07:38 pm »
Second ep is now nestled firmly in my basket of all-time-favorite episodes. =)

Instead of saying how much I liked it tho', I'm gonna ask: is anyone else pondering the meaning of the owl? There's an owl in the opening, a stylized owl icon during the eycatch, and towards the beginning of yesterday's episode there was a big window shaped like an owl's face in the room at the top of the casino. Imma go back and watch these two episodes to see if I can't spot any more hidden owls.

...or is this some kind of obvious symbolism flying over my head? xD

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Re: Episode 2: ".357 Magnum" Official Thread
« Reply #64 on: April 12, 2012, 07:12:13 pm »
Instead of saying how much I liked it tho', I'm gonna ask: is anyone else pondering the meaning of the owl? There's an owl in the opening, a stylized owl icon during the eycatch, and towards the beginning of yesterday's episode there was a big window shaped like an owl's face in the room at the top of the casino. Imma go back and watch these two episodes to see if I can't spot any more hidden owls.
In Japan, the owl represents fertility.

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Re: Episode 2: ".357 Magnum" Official Thread
« Reply #65 on: April 12, 2012, 07:50:57 pm »
Instead of saying how much I liked it tho', I'm gonna ask: is anyone else pondering the meaning of the owl? There's an owl in the opening, a stylized owl icon during the eycatch, and towards the beginning of yesterday's episode there was a big window shaped like an owl's face in the room at the top of the casino. Imma go back and watch these two episodes to see if I can't spot any more hidden owls.
In Japan, the owl represents fertility.

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...or is this some kind of obvious symbolism flying over my head? xD

Thanks for clearing that up for me!

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Re: Episode 2: ".357 Magnum" Official Thread
« Reply #66 on: April 12, 2012, 10:29:09 pm »
I may as well post over my impressions from GAF (albeit edited a little);

Oh man, I LOVED this episode. They played Jigen's character really well and the attention to detail was fantastic. I found that this episode was perfect in explaining Jigen's mistrust towards women and why he gave up being a bodyguard to become a thief.

Fujiko was great here too. This is exactly how I envisioned the series; Fujiko using her seductive charm to steal from the opposition. I also love how at the start of the episode, she seems to be using her ear rings to rig the roulette wheel (only it goes wrong on the last spin.) This is typical Fujiko and something I know I would expect from her. I also found the line at the end hilarious, with Fujiko saying "Maybe we'll work together some day..." and Jigen being all "Not a chance in hell." Very ironic, but it still fits the characters very nicely.
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Re: Episode 2: ".357 Magnum" Official Thread
« Reply #67 on: April 12, 2012, 11:08:56 pm »
I loved how Fujiko thought that by Jigen's weakness being women, that meant any old whore could  shmooze up to him and he'll turn to putty. Little did she know that Jigen's got a soft spot for a damsel in distress. That's what I love about Jigen's character, he's got a chivalrous aspect to him.

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Re: Episode 2: ".357 Magnum" Official Thread
« Reply #68 on: April 12, 2012, 11:19:34 pm »
Though to be fair, he wasn't so immune to Fujiko's charms that she couldn't kiss him, winning that encounter with a little seduction in that case.

And anybody have input on the "spy" thing? I think Fujiko has been called a spy before too, maybe in the pilot film. What do you folks make of that?
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Re: Episode 2: ".357 Magnum" Official Thread
« Reply #69 on: April 12, 2012, 11:24:11 pm »
Though to be fair, he wasn't so immune to Fujiko's charms that she couldn't kiss him, winning that encounter with a little seduction in that case.

And anybody have input on the "spy" thing? I think Fujiko has been called a spy before too, maybe in the pilot film. What do you folks make of that?
Yeah but he seemed to be taken by surprise due to him being lost in the thoughts of his past. Perhaps that all factored in to what he said at the end about having to be devoid of any and all feelings because even a split-second hesitation can cost you in the line of work he is/was in.

As for the spy thing, I too noticed that. I thought it was a great throw back to the Manga days. I like that they're giving a little more to what Fujiko does as opposed to just getting close to regular old rich guys.

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Re: Episode 2: ".357 Magnum" Official Thread
« Reply #70 on: April 12, 2012, 11:25:55 pm »
The spy thing still confuses me, because I don't think she's a spy. I'm just assuming they're misusing the word. If she's a spy, well could somebody shed more light on Fujiko secretly being a spy for somebody (usually a country)? Doesn't seem to be the case?

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Re: Episode 2: ".357 Magnum" Official Thread
« Reply #71 on: April 12, 2012, 11:44:09 pm »
The spy thing still confuses me, because I don't think she's a spy. I'm just assuming they're misusing the word. If she's a spy, well could somebody shed more light on Fujiko secretly being a spy for somebody (usually a country)? Doesn't seem to be the case?

Rather than being an spy for a country or organization maybe it's more like she's a spy for her own benefit.

Going undercover so it helps her career as a thief. She can get the scoop on objects worth stealing (and plan a strategy) and also sell important info to others for money upfront, and sometimes making her partner (e.g. Lupin) promise her a share of the loot if successful.
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Re: Episode 2: ".357 Magnum" Official Thread
« Reply #72 on: April 12, 2012, 11:48:33 pm »
That does make sense, but still sounds more like the day-to-day of a savvy criminal than what a spy would be doing. I guess it's just artistic license on using the word spy. And possibly a language thing?

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Re: Episode 2: ".357 Magnum" Official Thread
« Reply #73 on: April 13, 2012, 02:25:01 am »
Another great episode. I love the overall more mature tone to everything. Beyond more fanservice in the intro than the past half-dozen specials and things, this show delivers drama better than any other animated Lupin project. Sure, some S2 eps had some, and there, it could work well, but the specials usually went with ham-fisted drama or occasionally well-executed stuff. This show at least tries to make you care about every major character AS a fully-formed character. I always loved Jigen episodes of the second series, and this was right out of that mold. He's a tragic character, and now we're seeing yet another interpretation as to why. I'm looking forward to next week's episode to see how this continues, and I'm still blown away at just how much the new art style helps this show stand out.

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Re: Episode 2: ".357 Magnum" Official Thread
« Reply #74 on: April 13, 2012, 02:19:45 pm »
I agree with the general consensus that this is indeed a fantastic episode. Very reminiscent of film noir (it had a lot of the essential elements: flashback, heavy shadows, femme fatale, betrayal, unhappy ending...). Served as a great explanation for why Jigen is the way he is. Vocally...Kobayashi's still got it.
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