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Re: Episode 3: "The Lady and the Samurai" Official Thread
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2012, 10:57:09 pm »
Pretty cool, I didn't dig it as much as the first two episodes, this one felt a bit slower getting going. Goemon was awesome as ever though, and I loved the showdown with Fujiko at the end there, excellent finish.

Bring on episode 4 baby.

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Re: Episode 3: "The Lady and the Samurai" Official Thread
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2012, 11:13:39 pm »
I felt as though it was an important piece of the puzzle. Goemon is often overlooked in most situations, and so there is a natural inclination to want to flesh him out farther(think about it, he gets the smallest part of most lupin episodes(2 notable first season episodes being the exception), and his only real features are the fuma clan movie, burn zantetsuken and a sub plot of tokyo crisis as far as I can remember.) and yet to flesh him out too much would make his character unacceptable.

Goemon being nice to the children was a great feature to add in. It gives him a softer heart and opens up his character to more situations than "slash the thing and leave". His loneliness was an interesting touch. When I think about Goemon, his character always secludes himself because he needs to train himself and he's unworthy and etc., but what if he really just can't connect with people? Suddenly things open up.

Anyways, my main point is that as a character study, this episode was fascinating. As a fujiko-centered tv show, it might have been a bit lacking, but it's good to see yet another side to her. as a lupin the 3rd show, I'm lost as to what's going on, but then again I have a few hundred hours of lupin centric stuff i haven't yet watched, so it's not like I'm in desperate need of lupin.

now if this gets a second season(AND I HOPE TO GOD THAT IT DOES!) then I expect more lupin stuff.

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Re: Episode 3: "The Lady and the Samurai" Official Thread
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2012, 11:59:10 pm »
Holding off on my thoughts until I see the FUNimation subs (also, because I missed part of the episode due to my brother needing help hooking up the N64 so he could play some Mario Party).

The only difference from Goemon in other series is that he fell for Fujiko, unlike the previous portrayals...
You may wanna watch his debut appearance in Green Jacket.

Well, I guess I should have specified I meant TVSPs.

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Re: Episode 3: "The Lady and the Samurai" Official Thread
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2012, 01:37:09 pm »
Episode 3 now streaming at Funimation

http://www.funimation.com/lupin-the-third-fujiko-mine/episode/the-lady-and-the-samurai/sub

Even if you've watched it already RAW or fansubbed, watch it again!  ;D

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Re: Episode 3: "The Lady and the Samurai" Official Thread
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2012, 02:10:00 pm »
Man, this show just keeps getting better and better.  I loved this interpretation of Goemon.  He's a bit naive and inexperienced in the crime world, and I really liked the whole loneliness factor.  He feels like he has no one, and that the world has no place for him.. it's going to be really cool to see how he meets up with Lupin and Co.  I also really liked the dynamic he and Fujiko had.  It's much more friendly than what we've seen with Lupin or Jigen and that's interesting.  I also really liked seeing Fujiko's softer side.. even if it was partially an act.  The bit with her and Marco toward the end was really sweet.     

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Re: Episode 3: "The Lady and the Samurai" Official Thread
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2012, 02:14:00 pm »
Episode 3 now streaming at Funimation

http://www.funimation.com/lupin-the-third-fujiko-mine/episode/the-lady-and-the-samurai/sub

Even if you've watched it already RAW or fansubbed, watch it again!  ;D

Yeah! I just finished watching it too!

Calling yourself Maria the Governess, huh, Fujiko?

LOL! I see what you did there, TMS.  ;)


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Re: Episode 3: "The Lady and the Samurai" Official Thread
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2012, 03:21:25 pm »
I like that, for a while, we saw a gentler side to Fujiko. I like to think it wasn't all just an act. As she says, "There's no place for me anywhere, either." That, coupled with telling Jigen about how she's outrunning her past, leads me to believe there's much more to her than just seducing men and stealing things.

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Re: Episode 3: "The Lady and the Samurai" Official Thread
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2012, 03:29:54 pm »
I like to believe that she was in denial when she said, "It was all an act". I've always seen Fujiko as the type that has a very soft side to herself, but just doesn't like to show it too often. There is obviously a void there that's keeping her from being too open.

Also, with the constant mention of her past, I still believe they're building up to something that happened to her before and/or when she started her career as "the mysterious female burglar". It would be interesting to see how she became the woman that she is today.

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Re: Episode 3: "The Lady and the Samurai" Official Thread
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2012, 03:33:27 pm »
I have to agree with the general consensus about the episode. After years of being treated as a final-act plot-device in the specials, it was very nice to see Goemon being treated as an actual character, with his own desires, feelings, and motivations.
On that note, I'm really enjoying this version of Fujiko for similar reasons. Putting her in the limelight like this helps to develop her character further than the double-crossing, teasing damsel in distress she's usually portrayed as. I liked seeing this caring side of Fujiko.
The kids themselves were somewhat interesting. The girl's sadness of being reminded of her mother, and mentioning that Marco will one day be king were interesting dimensions to their characters.

Also, this episode had some amusing moments, like Marco pulling on Goemon's fundoshi, or Goemon not ducking when going through the tunnel (I especially loved how we just saw his face, then they later cut to the hole he made in the rock. Very Monkey Punch-esque.)
I like that, for a while, we saw a gentler side to Fujiko. I like to think it wasn't all just an act.
I don't think it's an act, either, as she chose the kids over the treasure. And her goodbye to Marco was done in secret. Why bother with keeping up the act if there was no one around to see it?
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Re: Episode 3: "The Lady and the Samurai" Official Thread
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2012, 03:35:45 pm »
Kids over the treasure, you mean.

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Re: Episode 3: "The Lady and the Samurai" Official Thread
« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2012, 05:05:05 pm »
Kids over the treasure, you mean.
Yes. Thank you. Dagnabbit, what I posted was the exact opposite of what I was trying to say.
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Re: Episode 3: "The Lady and the Samurai" Official Thread
« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2012, 11:28:43 pm »
Have not seen it all, but I'm guessing the tombstone being visited at the beginning is that of the original Goemon Ishikawa, not the new one, right?

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Re: Episode 3: "The Lady and the Samurai" Official Thread
« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2012, 11:31:09 pm »
Just watched this and the Jigen ep. My reviews of both are coming soon. Got a little busy with work & RL stuff.

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Re: Episode 3: "The Lady and the Samurai" Official Thread
« Reply #28 on: April 20, 2012, 11:35:11 pm »
Grr... Why do they gotta add annoying precocious kids to Lupin? They don't help George Lucas's movies, either. The only time that gimmick worked was in Goodbye Lady Liberty, and that's because Dezaki was in charge.

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Re: Episode 3: "The Lady and the Samurai" Official Thread
« Reply #29 on: April 21, 2012, 12:40:32 am »
It was fine in a way for the kids to be there because it kicked in a very important part of Fujiko's character:her own morality.

Granted, I can count on my left hand the number of times it's come out in 40+ years of Lupin anime, but it's still an important piece of her character:that she has priorities higher than money. In fact when Lupin gave that monologue about Fujiko willing to kill for what she wants and then her betting her own life against the casino, I legitimately thought that Fujiko was going to be made into a clever but see through character. But in the scene where she could have easily taken some of the art while saving Marco, we saw that (even though it wasn't her main target) she could give up the money for something else. it also answered the question of "can fujiko act in disguise as a character other than a seductress" and that's yes. well played on the writer's part, as it opens up possibilities.

and that's just fujiko's character. in an episode establishing goemon's character, it was even bigger.

on another note, i also found it was GREAT to have an episode where we focused on the interactions between two characters who play one part(the catalyst normally for fujiko, and the trump card/plot wrapper for goemon) and never interact otherwise besides barbs and behind the back banter when one gets the spotlight for an episode(usually goemon complaining about fujiko...irony since they dated)